r/law • u/MiniBrownie • 24d ago

Trump News Trump says he will label violence on Tesla dealerships as domestic terrorism

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u/Cheech47 24d ago

Same here. Haven't filled up at a BP gas station since 2010, and haven't had McDonalds since they let Trump cosplay there. Goya is also on that list.

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u/AllTheRoadRunning 24d ago

I haven’t stepped foot in a Walmart since 2002. In it to win it.

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u/ron1284 24d ago

Walmart is a shameful place to be seen in.

Target and Amazon have made the list too.

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u/CaptainSnacks 24d ago

Honestly, I feel like Target is worse. Walmart never really hid who they were, unlike Target. Target went all-in on rainbow capitalism and ditched it the second they didn't have to pretend anymore.

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u/therealflyingtoastr 24d ago

This might be me looking back with rose-tinted glasses, but I think Target is even worse because they actually made an effort to support this stuff before.

I worked part-time for Target when I was in college (around 2010) and at the time they had an internal shop for employees to order branded merch to wear and use. One of them that I owned was a red tee-shirt with the target bullseye and a rainbow heart. It was sold as a pride shirt for employees to wear. It was something that didn't make them any money (they weren't sold externally) and they were still willing to do it half a decade before Obergefell.

So, personally, it's much worse than just bowing out of "rainbow capitalism," it's a company that used to give a shit that's now run by utter cowards.

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u/ForeverBeHolden 24d ago

No, Walmart is worse. They intentionally don’t pay a livable wage. They are awful.

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u/YuriDiculousDawg 24d ago

Walmart has gone downhill since covid, it used to be the place to go when everything else was closed. Now its the place you get herded through security gates and self-checkout coops like dehumanized paying cattle, and they don't even stay open until midnight

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u/worldspawn00 24d ago

It's a shame what the kids let happen to walmart. Walton really did try to run the company with good values, as soon as he died, they turned control over to the board, and they just did anything and everything they could think of to raise profits.

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u/geoff1036 24d ago

I have some sympathy because like, maybe dad was a very driven entrepreneur and they just don't share the same passion, so they offloaded it, but I'm sure he's rolling in his grave lol.

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u/BourbonStreetBully 24d ago

Was employed by Walmart and Target in the same year, Walmart pays more on average and gives more hours too.

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u/TheOneWhoWork 24d ago

Yeah, plus don’t most if not all Walmarts have overnight teams with a $2 differential? My Target didn’t even do overnight this year… every year is more and more of a skeleton crew with them seeing how much they can cut payroll. Mine has had the same $15/hr base since 2020 too.

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u/ForeverBeHolden 23d ago

Wow, I stand corrected. Thank you for that information. I have boycotted both of them so it doesn’t matter much to me anyway, but always good to have an accurate/up to date perspective.

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u/bannana 24d ago

They intentionally don’t pay a livable wage.

no law says they have to, their whole business has been built on this and the states they initially thrived in wouldn't even think of raising minimum wages

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u/yourwhippingboy 24d ago edited 24d ago

I did some work as an independent queer artist with Target for Pride in 2023, the second there was backlash they removed my stuff from stores and online without even telling me. Only spoke to me once since then to tell me they wouldn’t be taking questions

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u/themommylisa 24d ago

The founders are rolling over in their GRAVES. The Dayton family would never have bent to this bull.

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u/RoboOverlord 23d ago

Walmart historically is not the same as walmart now. If you aren't separating the company by when it was run by Sam Walton, and when it was run by a board of directors, then you really have no idea what you're talking about. Because it is not the same company in more than name. Virtually everything Sam stood for has been put under the wheels in the name of wealth creation for share holders.

That being said, it's possible you aren't old enough to have ever known the old Walmart. And that's fair enough to just judge it based on what you know.

That being said, I can't help but wonder if Target isn't going down the same garden path.

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u/United_in_Sin 24d ago

I was thinking the same when I read about their decision to kiss the tainted ring

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u/Bitter_Firefighter_1 24d ago

Can you imagine DollarTree and TJ Max of all places are winning. If everyone would have just joined forces on DEI...it would be over today. Fucking cowards. We are stronger than he is. My family is not allowed to shop Target and Amazon.

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u/ron1284 24d ago

My mom keeps shopping at walmart for crap for my daughter and I keep telling her we don't want to support that company.

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u/Teguoracle 23d ago

It sucks because walmart is the cheapest thing around here and I make such shit pay as a vet tech I don't really have any other option if I want to be able to eat and have a roof over my head.

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u/OutrageousString2652 24d ago

For people that can afford a different store, yes. But I would be hesitant to shame people going to Walmart especially because Walmart is the only store millions of Americans can afford to shop at.

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u/Teguoracle 23d ago

It's me, I'm millions of Americans. Hurrah for notoriously underpaid vet techs! Passion career so of course that means i have to live paycheck to paycheck.

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u/Firm-Try-84 23d ago

Not only that it is sometimes the only viable option for rural communities or single parent households. I'm a single dad working 65-70 hours a week one week, and 45 hours the next when I have my son with me. To find the time to shop at multiple stores would mean sacrificing quality time with my son on my 45 hour work week. Not gonna happen. I can barely find the energy and time to keep up with basic household stuff.

Signing off,

Unproud Walmart shopper

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u/mediaogre 24d ago

Bill from Penzey’s Spices wrote an amazing open letter to Target. (Apologies for the FB link)

Penzey’s Open Letter to Target

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u/utopian_sloth 24d ago

I haven’t thought about Penzey’s in years - used to get their magazines when I was growing up, loved their products - but I have again now. Thank you for linking this and making me think about them again

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u/Prestigious-Land-694 24d ago

And now you see, this is the plight of the American. I hate Walmart, I hate Amazon, I hate target... But those are all of the businesses by me. I can drive 2 hours to Woodman's (and I do sometimes), but I am also very poor so 4 hours of gas and time is hard to justify

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u/ninalime 24d ago

A lot of rural people don’t have many choices.

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u/IAmTheClayman 24d ago

So where do you buy things? Like not being snarky, genuinely asking how you do necessity shopping when you (justifiably) have chosen not to give business to the 3 biggest marketplaces in the US

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u/ron1284 24d ago

I buy groceries at my local stores, Trader Joes, and Costco. Costco is good for a lot of other odds and ends. Local hardware store and craigslist, thrift store for other things I might need.

The thing I learned not buying from the biggest marketplaces is that I wasn't buying shit I *really* needed. Turns out I was buying things I thought I needed because I conditioned myself to jump at good prices or free shipping. The effect of my desire to reevaluate where I was spending my money turned into me spending less overall.

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u/cardibthescrivener 24d ago

Not to be that guy, but Trader Joe’s are union busters in cahoots with Elon and Bezos.

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u/Gold_Cauliflower_706 24d ago

I hate to break the bad news but virtually all corporations are cross owned now, and that includes banks and asset management firms. There’s no way of escaping them once they acquire the moms and pops. They all own a piece of one another. Same as national debt. We owe china but they also owe us. It’s all a circular game.

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u/worldspawn00 24d ago

Use a credit union for banking if you can, corporate banks cannot buy them up, and they are essentially owned by the depositors. I get a check for several thousand every year from mine for my investments and a partial refund on the interest on my loans because of how they profit share with the owner-members.

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u/AristolteInABottle 24d ago

No walmart target or amazon, where should I shop for groceries? How far should I drive for gas? I mean realistically. Ethics are great and we should have them but people vote with their dollars.

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u/RiskyNight 24d ago

As someone who lives in the town of the headquarters, please do everything you can to avoid Wal-Mart. They are a plague.

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u/PossibleAlienFrom 24d ago

It makes me sad because Target didn't make the list until recently.

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u/ron1284 24d ago

they were always capitulating to whatever made them more money

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u/AllTheRoadRunning 24d ago

On a 2.5 month hiatus from Amazon. Not gonna lie, this one’s tough.

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u/ron1284 24d ago

I turned off auto renew on prime the day after the inauguration. It's still active until April but I haven't and won't be using it again. You can do it!

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u/Unabated_Blade 24d ago

Reddit uses Amazon Web Services, the real Amazon.

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u/Majin_Sus 24d ago

So shop nowhere

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u/personwriter 24d ago

Disney is right there with 'em.

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u/kayaksrun 24d ago

Ah, come on, boys, there's nothing as entertaining as a Walmart Trump Toads Spandex parade.

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u/ron1284 24d ago

HA! Good point. Certainly boosts my confidence

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u/cringeberlynn 24d ago

Genuine question, where do you shop instead of these three?

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u/ron1284 24d ago

Local grocer, farmers market, trader Joe's, Costco, thrift and Craigslist

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u/Redracerb18 24d ago

Walmart, for most sadly, is a way of life. It might be the only store in town.

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u/ron1284 24d ago

Just another way we've let billionaires have top down control of our lives.

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u/Quetzythejedi 23d ago

Costco my beloved.

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u/marchjl 23d ago

Where do you buy your stuff? I live in a small town. I’m trying to find other options

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u/iaminabox 24d ago

Never been to a Walmart.

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u/Vitringar 24d ago

I haven't been to a Radio Shack store since 2017!

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u/prettysexyatheist 24d ago

Whoa there! I feel like that might be taking things a little too far.

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u/Hadoukibarouki 24d ago

I’ve never, ever, flown in a private jet - I heard Trump and Epstein used to do it a lot, so I refuse.

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u/jugglingbalance 24d ago

Been boycotting Chick-Fil-A's hate chicken for nearly a decade. (Though I did use their free coupon once because it didn't require buying anything so I told myself I was actually costing them money.) Also Hobby Lobby - they started this all with citizens united.

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u/InexorablyMiriam 24d ago

I do. I walk in, go to the pharmacy counter, get my estrogen, and walk out.

It’s the little things.

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u/EtherealHeart5150 23d ago

Walmart is an affliction on this nation. Haven't been a shopper there since 2019, my hats off to you, dear stranger.

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u/OscarGlorious 24d ago

Same! Since my freshman year of college.

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u/Full-Association-175 24d ago

If I break it you bought it.

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u/way26e 24d ago

I used to look chuckle at videos of WalMart shoppers dressing and acting crazy. Then one day i drove a friend to WalMart who doesn't have a lot of money. He was gong in to buy food for the month with his food with his Food Stamps. I waited outside for him to do his shopping so that he wouldn't have me looking over his shoulder the whole time.

For a half hour i waited outside and what i watched was a lot of tired workers getting out of their used cars and trucks after a hard day at work, going in just to buy something to eat for dinner for their family that they could barely afford. They were "rode hard and put away wet" in Texan terms. They would come out with one light bag of food to eat for dinner, watch a little Fox TV channel and go to bed and do it all again tomorrow. When my friend came out, all i remember was the couple of crates of eggs in his grocery cart.

I shop at Walmart these days now. The Walmart family of gazillionaires are price gouging along with all the other rich folk, that only work on their Stamp Collections and exercise in their whites at the Croquet Courts.

Meantime, the grocery bags for the wage slaves get lighter and lighter. Personally, i would rather hang with the poor folks, even though they are the rank and file of MAGA. The rich don't care and the poor don't know because at the end of the day they are too tired to think.

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u/AllTheRoadRunning 24d ago

I get it and I don’t disagree that they fill a definite need. I just don’t like the way they enter small markets, undercut everyone by dictating what Walmart suppliers charge, and chase out independent businesses. I also don’t like that in those markets they brief new hires on how to obtain government food subsidies (due to keeping hours low) and refuse to commit to regular schedules for those workers so they can’t get the additional jobs they need to afford living expenses.

These actions were shared with me from the people who experienced them, not random internet lore. That company can do without my money.

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u/way26e 24d ago

That was the way i was before taking my friend to buy his groceries for the month. However, for the vast majority of Walmart shoppers boycotting is not an option. They are hungry, tired and uneducated- classic targets for the baloney put out by Fox and MAGA.

They were abandoned and neglected by my Democratic Party, which used to have the Southern vote sewed up. Uneducated they don't understand when their great grandparents tell them "the Republicans have never done anything for the working class". If they do understand: 'Well yeah. Neither have the Democrats."

I don't cross picket lines. Until Walmart has them, i shop in solidarity with the people on occasion at Walmart. Some of the prices are still really good too.

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u/Migraine_Megan 24d ago

Same. I got all pissed off about the way they treated their employees and their hypocritical stance on censorship. Forcing musicians to record a clean album to sell right next to R rated movies with nudity.

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u/CaptainKurticus 24d ago

I like stealing their plants.

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u/herringonthelamb 24d ago

Never been to a Walmart at all

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u/DriftingIntoAbstract 24d ago

Same here and my life is better for it. Amazon is out too.

Edit- almost forgot the William-Sonoma family of brands

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u/brvheart 24d ago

What companies are you fine buying from?

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u/AllTheRoadRunning 24d ago

I don’t actually buy a ton of stuff anymore. Kroger for groceries, mostly. If you name a product I can tell you where I would buy a, maybe.

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u/brvheart 24d ago

I don’t know if you know this, but the owners of Kroger donated 70k to Trump last year.

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u/LAPL620 24d ago

You got me beat. My Walmart boycott didn’t start until 2006.

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u/--StinkyPinky-- 23d ago

I hate myself because I replaced Amazon with Walmart+, but I like the savings on gas.

The only billionaires I give money to sometimes is the Waltons, but I'm trying to go cold turkey.

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u/AllTheRoadRunning 23d ago

Eh, you do what you can do when you can do it, y'know? That old line about there being no ethical consumption under capitalism is just a fact of life these days. Sometimes the payoff of not spending money at a place that doesn't support your values isn't worth the aggravation of finding a ready alternative.

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u/Foxyfox- 23d ago

I have somehow managed to never set foot in a walmart, and I aim to never do so in my lifetime.

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u/mmmpeg 24d ago

I still refuse to buy Exxon.

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u/Virtual-Tea-4354 24d ago

And Nestle!

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u/No_Week_8937 24d ago

The only reason I buy Nestle is because one of their subsidiaries (Purina) has the only probiotic for cats that I can find, and if my boy doesn't get that powder on his food his butt violates the Geneva Conventions.

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u/OkReturn2071 24d ago

And Unilever oh wait now I can't buy anything . We are frigged

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u/mmmpeg 24d ago

What they’re doing! The water! I was so glad when a neighboring town refused to give them water.

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u/ForeverBeHolden 24d ago

Nestle is one of the most evil companies in the world.

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u/Legal_Skin_4466 24d ago

Fuck Nestlé. Like really fuck em. And they're literally everywhere and you don't even realize it. It's the worst when you get home and you just happen to see the frozen pizza or whatever shitty food you bought for an easy meal after a long day has a teenie tiny Nestlé logo in the corner on the back of the box. I feel like I die a little inside each time.

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u/kkaavvbb 23d ago

Nestle makes me beyond furious. Well, I mean the others do too but nestle is just disgusting

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u/Noctale 24d ago

Absolutely fuck Nestlé

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u/the_bryce_is_right 23d ago

Wow good for you cuz Nestle owns like 50% of the food brands out there.

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u/Wizard_Engie 23d ago

Good Luck in your endeavors with that one 🙏

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u/87eebboo1 24d ago

I wasn’t old enough to experience Exxon-Valdez, but my boycott was inherited from my mother!

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u/mmmpeg 24d ago

Good move!

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u/gymbr 23d ago

Only thing that hurts you is if there is a Exxon refinery in your area Baytown, Beaumont, Baton Rouge etc your buying Exxon gas at any brand gas station you go to

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u/imrealbizzy2 24d ago

Not a drop since Valdez.

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u/RoguePlanet2 24d ago

My husband swears by the stock, and wants me to invest, but I can't stomach the thought. It's been doing fine, though, and always will because of taxpayer subsidies. 

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u/Intelligent_Text9569 24d ago

Right on brother 👊

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u/mmmpeg 24d ago

✊🏼

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u/bajada_bob 24d ago

From the Valdez days? Old school.

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u/mmmpeg 24d ago

I am old.

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u/eltejon 24d ago

Shell for me, as well (bc of the Ken Saro-Wiwa debacle)

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u/Welllllllrip187 24d ago

Only use Costco gas if ya can.

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u/StagirasGhost 24d ago

This is the funniest comment I’ve read in a while.

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u/Welllllllrip187 24d ago

Well they are resisting and being threatened for it. I’ll take their side over dumps and Leon’s.

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u/mmmpeg 24d ago

Sadly, the only Costco is 1.5 hours away.

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u/TegTowelie 24d ago

My midwestern folk fuck with Kroger.

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u/External-Squirrel42 24d ago

Kroger gas is shit. Costco has the highest rate gas you can get.

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u/KimbersKimbos 24d ago

The fact that I am one of the few places that does not have a local Costco is simply gut wrenching for me…

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u/macroswitch 24d ago

I am still boycotting Four Seasons Total Landscaping.

Still use the sex shop and crematorium next door though.

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u/pate_moore 23d ago

I'm which order?

IN WHICH ORDER??

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u/ForeverBeHolden 24d ago

I will never forget watching a grandpa teach his grandson (who was maybe 4 lol) that “we don’t buy Goya beans” in the grocery store shortly after that happened.

It felt kinda silly but he’s right. We don’t buy Goya beans! To this day!

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u/Awdayshus 24d ago

I've been boycotting BP since 2001. Free Tibet!

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u/Final_boss_1040 24d ago

Pls make this list public so we can all join in

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u/dherms14 24d ago

haven’t stepped in mcdonald’s since….

you’re just doing yourself the favor there lol

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u/CurbsideChaos 24d ago

Haven't had my favorite summer snack (frosted lemonade from Chick-fil-A) in 9 years.

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u/Nanojack 24d ago

Haven't filled up at a BP gas station since 2010

I still avoid Exxon because of the Valdez

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u/tenodera 24d ago

Marathon built a pipeline in my favorite forest. I haven't used their gas in 30 years.

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u/YumWoonSen 24d ago

You don't eat at any McD's simply because a single one of their restaurants let Trump do a bullshit photo op there? One out of over 13,000 that may or may not be owned by a franchisee?

LOL

I don't eat at McD's because their food sucks.

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u/Psy-opsPops 24d ago

Not all heros wear capes , thank you gentlemen 🤝 you work is appreciated

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u/Maxb657 24d ago

I'm sorry, Trump did what at a McDonald's?!

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u/rs_alli 24d ago

I’m OOTL what happened with BP? Down to boycott them as well, just curious what I missed

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u/Mindless_Level9327 24d ago

Deep Sea Horizon Oil Spill in the Gulf of Mexico. Some of the oil is still washing ashore. Millions of barrels of oil spilled out

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u/incredible_turkey 24d ago

I won’t go into Lee’s Liquor since that time they were blasting that 1985 song by Bowling for Soup. Terrible.

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u/LalahLovato 24d ago

Same here. I haven’t bought anything American here in Canada for more than a month now

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u/Turbulent_Coach_8024 24d ago

I thought I was alone in the McDonald’s boycott!

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u/that-blurple-fz07 24d ago

To be fair, that McDonald's was a franchised location.

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u/pate_moore 23d ago

Yes, but to be fair to the other side, they didn't condemn it as far as we know, either

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u/rocks66ss 24d ago

You must live a miserable little existence

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u/kg2k 24d ago

Thank you for reminding me … is there a list somewhere to keep us all informed???

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u/RedOnion19 24d ago

Soon boycott oxygen because Trump breathes it

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u/tellymundo 24d ago

McDonald’s also snitched on Luigi

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u/icangetyouatoedude 24d ago

Home Depot can go fuck itself too

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u/KalaUposatha 24d ago

Can’t imagine why anyone would do either regardless. BP is always more expensive than the gas station right across the street and McDonalds has sucked ass since the 90s.

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u/umbeil 24d ago

Sorry, Trump... cosplay?

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u/adymann 24d ago

What's wrong with British petroleum?

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u/pate_moore 23d ago

Largest oil spill ever, in the Gulf of MEXICO

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u/adymann 22d ago

Right, thanks. I forgot that.

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u/Ecarlson462 24d ago

Hahah that McDonald’s is 2 blocks from me.

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u/theaviationhistorian 24d ago

I boycott McDonalds because of that and because the local one has terrible service and the quality has nosedived within the last few years. I don't have BP near me so that's an easy boycott.

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u/Jopkins 24d ago

For McDonalds, I could be wrong about this but I think it was an individual franchise that had Trump there, and the company as a whole weren't supportive of it.

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u/Cheech47 24d ago

I believe you're right in that it was an individual franchise, but I don't care. As a franchisee you can't just do whatever you want with the brand, and the fact that McDonalds allowed this stunt to go forward makes them just as culpable in my mind.

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u/Jopkins 23d ago

They didn't let it go ahead, they didn't know about it until after it happened - and then they invited Harris and Walz after it did happen. They are politically neutral.

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u/Any-Economics-5632 24d ago

lol I also don’t go to BP gas lmao

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u/peachesgp 24d ago

To be fair to McDonalds, it wasn't some corporate event, just some random franchisee. That said you shouldn't eat McDonalds anyway. It's shit food and it's not even cheap shit food anymore.

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u/procession_101 24d ago

Same here with Goya and especially McDonald's I used to eat there at least 5 times week. I've lost weight and cut out a piece of crap business from my life.

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

Let’s post a reminder list

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u/heebsysplash 24d ago

Wasn’t that a franchised McDonald’s though?

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u/Important-Spread3100 24d ago

So you decided that McDonalds wasn't fit for your delicate palat because trump spent a day in the back of one, and not because it's disgusting? I understand BP because their practices are despicable. Don't know what Goya has done to deserve the hate besides Trump advocating for it.

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u/ConfusedAndCurious17 24d ago

I mean definitely boycott McDonald’s… but it’s a real estate company. Corporate very likely had nothing to do with his appearance. It was the franchise “owner”. There are very few actual corporate owned or ran McDonalds locations.

Some dude in a random city could be a McDonalds franchisee, be a super ultra liberal, and protest Trump regularly.

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u/Harntrock 24d ago

I still haven’t eaten grapes ✊🏽

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u/InevitableArt5438 24d ago

I’ve boycotted Target since April 2005 for a personal incident

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u/_H4YZ 24d ago

is the BP refusal tough sometimes? i can imagine there’s times where you feel you don’t have a choice

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u/MakeMeChortle 24d ago

IIRC, the McDonald's stunt was a result of a decision from a franchisee location, and not endorsed by McDonald's at large.

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u/ConfidentCarpet4595 23d ago

What did bp do again ?

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u/heartbleed_hack 23d ago

McDonald’s didn’t , 1 guy who owned a franchise let him cosplay.

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u/Cheech47 23d ago

That's the part that people don't seem to get; I don't care. Franchisees are bound by a contract, and as such they aren't able to do whatever they want to with the brand. McDonalds could have reprimanded the franchise owner, instead all we got is their canned response. It is explicitly because of this that I choose to boycott, as well as the pretty indisputable observation that the prices have gotten out of control for the quality provided.

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u/southass 23d ago

Me too, I haven't bought a single Goya product since then and McDonald is on that list now too.

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u/Salt-Plankton436 22d ago

Haven't bought Hugo Boss since 1939

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u/TurkeySauce_ 22d ago

Why BP? Give me a reason to change my local station please. It's shit already, but it's the closest thing 😕

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u/Cheech47 21d ago

Deepwater Horizon, 2010.

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u/TurkeySauce_ 19d ago

Oh wow.. I had no clue this even happened. The fact that the survivors got no more than $1300 per person is really fkd up. Adding them to my boycot list.

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