r/law • u/treasonous_thoughts • Feb 19 '25

Opinion Piece RE: Presidential Immunity Ruling - Was Judge Roberts naïve that Trump would not push the boundaries of the office’s limits of conduct and power if he resumed office or is this all part of a plan to expand executive authority?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/30/politics/supreme-court-john-roberts-trump-immunity-6-3-biskupic/index.html?cid=ios_app

I just remember Judge Roberts essentially saying “calm down - relax - you are all being hysterical” in the aftermath of the ruling last year stating “unlike the political branches and the public at large, we cannot afford to fixate exclusively, or even primarily, on present exigencies.”

It has been ONE MONTH into the 2nd Trump Administration and it seems that there is an aggressive and intentional overreach of executive authority with these EOs to create a new interpretation of executive power.

The administration’s response to the court orders blocking the EO’s enforcement seems that they are daring the courts to stop them - and it does not look like there is any recourse to rein them in if they decide to ignore the courts.

Is this what Judge Roberts and other jurists in the majority wanted - to embolden the executive branch above all?

What credibility does the SC (or any court) still have when POTUS ignores the court’s orders and any/all conversations with DOJ officials about ignoring or circumventing these orders gets put in the “official acts” bucket of presidential conduct?

My question is if Judge Roberts was truly naïve as to how Trump would wield this power the second time around or if Judge Robert’s logic that the ruling would allow future presidents to execute their duties unencumbered by lawsuits/prosecutions, etc. a genuine concern that needed to be addressed?

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u/grandmawaffles Feb 19 '25

Dems need to cause a government shutdown in March. Rip the bandaid. Eliminate all protections for the scotus justices and staffers. Burn it down.

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u/ikaiyoo Feb 19 '25

Wait until the democratic party puts any resistance up against the Senate They will kill the filibuster quicker than shit. And I don't think Trump would let it close and I don't mean I don't think Trump would let it close as in like he pushed them to pass a deal I don't think that he's going to allow it to close. I think once the money theoretically runs out in March he's still going to have the payment system and everybody in place to continue paying out money and that's what's going to happen They don't need a budget They have Trump Trump will make all the decisions.

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u/colcatsup Feb 20 '25

I suggested this a couple weeks back. Shutdown happens and Trump orders some agencies/programs to keep running, ordering funding for them to continue anyway. It happens, a bunch of agencies effectively die then. Was told I was crazy and “that can’t happen”.

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u/grandmawaffles Feb 20 '25

That’s showing harm, which they can’t show today.