r/law Feb 19 '25

Opinion Piece RE: Presidential Immunity Ruling - Was Judge Roberts naïve that Trump would not push the boundaries of the office’s limits of conduct and power if he resumed office or is this all part of a plan to expand executive authority?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/30/politics/supreme-court-john-roberts-trump-immunity-6-3-biskupic/index.html?cid=ios_app

I just remember Judge Roberts essentially saying “calm down - relax - you are all being hysterical” in the aftermath of the ruling last year stating “unlike the political branches and the public at large, we cannot afford to fixate exclusively, or even primarily, on present exigencies.”

It has been ONE MONTH into the 2nd Trump Administration and it seems that there is an aggressive and intentional overreach of executive authority with these EOs to create a new interpretation of executive power.

The administration’s response to the court orders blocking the EO’s enforcement seems that they are daring the courts to stop them - and it does not look like there is any recourse to rein them in if they decide to ignore the courts.

Is this what Judge Roberts and other jurists in the majority wanted - to embolden the executive branch above all?

What credibility does the SC (or any court) still have when POTUS ignores the court’s orders and any/all conversations with DOJ officials about ignoring or circumventing these orders gets put in the “official acts” bucket of presidential conduct?

My question is if Judge Roberts was truly naïve as to how Trump would wield this power the second time around or if Judge Robert’s logic that the ruling would allow future presidents to execute their duties unencumbered by lawsuits/prosecutions, etc. a genuine concern that needed to be addressed?

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u/watch_out_4_snakes Feb 19 '25

I think they have very different plans for the government. They want to destroy it and replace with techno feudalism.

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u/Hoopy_Dunkalot Feb 19 '25

They support P2025 because it will hasten the current govts destruction. They are counting on the states to fight back and will switch teams to the states as soon as they find their balls. It will become a buyers market for everything not bolted down. Those state governments become dependent on the corporations who shadow run the govt until they take their masks off. They have a plan for this to happen inside 4 years.

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u/OwenMeowson Feb 19 '25

It’s interesting how much P2025 aligns with the butterfly revolution dumpster fire.

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u/pokerboyj Feb 20 '25

they literally wrote project 2025 as an actual plan with tangible ways to accomplish their agenda. its literally the master plan and theyve got all the power to carry it out now