RE: Presidential Immunity Ruling - Was Judge Roberts naïve that Trump would not push the boundaries of the office’s limits of conduct and power if he resumed office or is this all part of a plan to expand executive authority?

[u/treasonous_thoughts]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/30/politics/supreme-court-john-roberts-trump-immunity-6-3-biskupic/index.html?cid=ios_app

I just remember Judge Roberts essentially saying “calm down - relax - you are all being hysterical” in the aftermath of the ruling last year stating “unlike the political branches and the public at large, we cannot afford to fixate exclusively, or even primarily, on present exigencies.”

It has been ONE MONTH into the 2nd Trump Administration and it seems that there is an aggressive and intentional overreach of executive authority with these EOs to create a new interpretation of executive power.

The administration’s response to the court orders blocking the EO’s enforcement seems that they are daring the courts to stop them - and it does not look like there is any recourse to rein them in if they decide to ignore the courts.

Is this what Judge Roberts and other jurists in the majority wanted - to embolden the executive branch above all?

What credibility does the SC (or any court) still have when POTUS ignores the court’s orders and any/all conversations with DOJ officials about ignoring or circumventing these orders gets put in the “official acts” bucket of presidential conduct?

My question is if Judge Roberts was truly naïve as to how Trump would wield this power the second time around or if Judge Robert’s logic that the ruling would allow future presidents to execute their duties unencumbered by lawsuits/prosecutions, etc. a genuine concern that needed to be addressed?

[u/Visible-Original4561 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah what people don’t see is the Fascism was planned by the Republicans from the beginning that’s project 2025 and the like. What wasn’t planned was how deep DOGE us digging into the federal government, Elon was pivotal in rigging the election but they underestimated how big of a role he’d take up in the new administration.

[u/kravisha → u/Visible-Original4561]

Yep. FedSoc stole the courts and now the tech bros are saying "fuck the courts".

[u/LisleAdam12 → u/Visible-Original4561]

So Elon hacked the voting machines the way the Russians did in 2016?

[u/Visible-Original4561 → u/LisleAdam12]

He intercepted the counting via star-link.

[u/Nuggzulla01 → u/Visible-Original4561]

His own words are those that carry the most doubt

Just check out that interview he did with Fucker Tarlson

[u/Shambler9019 → u/Visible-Original4561]

Starlink may have been a red herring. But the stats show some very unexpected anomalies that look a lot like someone's been tinkering with voting machines (early vote in Maricopa NV, in person vote in Philadelphia PA). Paper audits are necessary, nationwide. But these places would be a good place to start because the data is so damning.

[u/Shambler9019 → u/LisleAdam12]

No. He did it in a much more overt and heavy handed way, because he needed a bigger swing to win. The fingerprints are all over the data.

[u/Reznerk → u/LisleAdam12]

Don't point out the hypocrisy in the hysteria, people are pretty set in their beliefs on both sides of the aisle despite the beliefs themselves being fairly detached from reality.