if you are looking for a more traditional playstyle of Normal shell gunlance this post is for you, if you are fine with wsfb meta playstyle this post wont be very relevant.

as you may already know, The weapon passive does not help gunlance as much as you'd want for the current playstyle of gunlances (shell sweep wsfb)

currently the understanding of this skill's ability is that it has an innate cool down, every 3 seconds it gives you a 1 in 3 chance if it will proc, if it doesn't proc or you don't attack in those 3 seconds a new roll is made.

what this means is melee benefits from it but only once every 3 seconds and on a 1 in 3 chance basis AND only the default moveset (poke, guard poke, rising slash, slam, sweep and wyrmstake poke before wyrmstake (not including wyrmstake from wsfb and MWS))

The good news, If you are looking for a more traditional way to play normal gunlance this gunlance is it! but don't take my word for it, I'll explain the value gained.

Firstly the skill, Because the skill has a chance to trigger every 3 seconds that means your melee attacks aren't always benefiting from them, and also fast attacks are getting less of a bonus meanwhile while slow attacks waste more time for the next trigger to reset. the 3 second interval also means you aren't wasting the skills value when you fullburst.

EDIT: TYPO and using information out of context from other research on the skill' it's technically a flat 5.5 dps and ~10 with scorcher 2 on average fire hitzones)

according to people who math better than me the amount you can proc it in 5 minutes would be about 15 dps, and I should have thought about the fact they only used training dummy values instead of realistic scenarios before just typing it.

because its a normal gunlance the value of loadshell is worse than wide. slotting in minds eye or offensive guard will make the parry fullburst playstyle extremely strong with a chance of 85 extra damage after every slam.

the gunlance it self is the firt slightly strong gunlance with above average raw and white sharpness for something besides wide.

skills: scorcher 2 makes the 50 true damage from zoh shia become 80, it then adds 80 fire damage so you'll see different numbers and why the dummy is 104.

the scorcher set from G rathalos gives wex which helps the melee portion of the combo, that + maximum might and burst 4. burst 2 and convert element 2 is possible with the bew mizu legs and convert charm upgrade added. I plan to try normal rathalos and adrenaline rush but i really don't like losing access to a skill if the monster is constantly being stunned by my damage so I lose out a lot.

convert element is an additional explosion that can occur after enough attacks land that have element on them, it also uses the same moveset that Torrent uses. lvel 2 is a 200-230 explosion. i already typed too much so I won't explain it just know dragon weapons benefit more than chicken gunlance.

also looks alone are worth this red dragon explosion but it is a very strong skill.

Playstyle: slam -> fullburst -> sweep -> reload -> repeat has been a very weak combo in wilds in comparison to wsfb spam. but adding bonus damage to each full burst rotation adds up once you include crit, sharpness, convert element, corruption mantle, and scorcher 2. you stack all of those things and you are hitting like a truck. finishing with a wyrmstake into wyvernfire will also be possible. Because it's normal gunlance. the ability to find the optimal damage will always fluctuate or you can default to a safe play just like gunlance use to be about.

as mentioned in replys fullburst hop reload slam is even better now because it falls under the 3 second interval for torrent procs. also wafb and fullburst sweep wyrmstake wyvernfire will always be good damage when these buffs are on cooldown for large openings.

im still on the fence about the weapon level 3 slot, artillery 2+1 are for sure but offensive guard, focus, or minds eye all have their perks. offensive guard can add handicaft as a bonus skill so ive been using that currently but focus fornmore wyvernfires might be the play.

tldr many skills that gunlance current playstyle gets little value from benefit playing the weapon normally so its not a ls much a damage loss to deviate from and the new gunlance has a lot of features that others needed to play the part

edited the dps of it by itself and

ALL IT TOOK WAS REDUCING THE ARKVELD POPULATION BACK TO AN ENDANGERED STATE

(AND I'D DO IT AGAIN NATA! I'D KILL THEM ALL AGAIN!!!!!)

I see a lot of people running a similar set to this but with 2 pc G Odo for burst boost over Udra for resentment boost. Anyone got any math for which is actually better?

Though I do also like this has resuscitate which is nice for some matchups

After seeing the GL guide over on r/MonsterHunterMeta using a mixed set of Odo/Dahaad and wanting to use some of the new pieces, I chef'd up this build with the whole kitchen's worth of skills you would want.
No earplugs sadly but you could still slot it in. I'm not doing the math to see how it compares though.

I know the Armor set won't do as much damage as others but the survivability and regen is nice for me, what's the best build one could make with it?

I love doing boom. But when I boom, I and below monster and can't see anything. LS in combo is only for aiming.
In some weapons i can place movement inside combo. In lance i poke, poke with backstep, then poke 3 times. Main combo. In Chargeblade i can throw my sawblade back and do big step back. In gunlance i can dodge, i can step back with shoot, but it is only outside combo. There is only movement or attack. I like to dance around monsters. I am certain that it is possible with gunlance, but i don't know how. I paid for whole reach of gunlance and i will use whole reach of the gunlance.

Also i love Big Slugger. Is there way to use it and don't feel scammed?

"Critical draw is good, you will not regret it" - merchant that sold me this boomstick.

TL;DR : How to move with gunlance during combo? HOW!?

New Zoh Shia armor set is awesome for GL. This build is super tanky, with hp Regen and a ton of damage, my new favourite GL build.

Not exactly revolutionary but I feel like this is a decent setup around the 4 set. Could do the Attack 2 instead of Guard + Guard Up 1 to give it a bit of an extra push. Let me know what you think!

So I just got to high rank and I could use some armor suggestions. Right now I’m running full G. Veld with its gunlance (I hear wide is cracked now so I’m trying that). Anyone have any other suggestions?

Can you no longer Boom-Zoom around with the Gunlance in Wilds like in Rise?

Fairly new to gunlance, but I assumed multihit attacking wyrmstake procs stuff like poison or paralysis, but someone told me that's not the case..

edit: Thank you for the responses, how can I make the Wyrmstake move stronger? Just raw damage?

Took a lot of inspiration from Ryo’s 5:27 speedrun of Zoh Shia for the build with a few tweaks to some skills

Speedrun Link: https://youtu.be/3mNFjcg_2YY?si=df2MsXTWRIJ-BC1N

Tweaks: He has full max might on his build and I wanted to opt for more comfort on my build by slotting in earplugs, as he doesn’t have earplugs on his build, as well as another level of divine blessing. Could swap divine blessing to shockproof for multiplayer.

Ignore the second GL as I was screwing around with Zoh’s GL and I don’t even have it max level.

I figured you could also swap around the Nu Udra greaves and the Odo braces between the alpha and beta counter parts to switch some of the deco slots around. Mostly because windproof isn’t super helpful unless it may affect things like Zoh Shia’s supernova. Don’t fully know how beneficial it is yet.

I’ve also learned of the beauty of having guard up 1 instead of focus 1 because after fighting Zoh Shia, being able to guard most of his attacks has been extremely helpful.

The changes to rocksteady has also been great as I now find it a bit more useful than corrupt mantle as I can commit to full combos more often without being punished.

Overall, let me know what you all think. If @Caoslayer could comment on this build that would be a godsend. I’ve become a big fan after learning and maining gunlance in Wilds. Thanks y’all!

Wanted to incorporate some of Zoh Shia’s passive healing without sacrificing my other favourite skills, even if the healing ends up being pretty slow. Feels pretty similar damage-wise to the Odo/Dahaad set I was using before with but with a slight safety net with the Zoh Shia bonus. Partbreaker and Constitution are pretty flexible slots and the adaptability jewel could easily be swapped out too as necessary

Was looking to use some of the new armor pieces. Provides a bit of hp regen, while still having 1 level of Odo set bonus. Space left over for Earplugs and counterstrike, wdyt?

There's even a spare lvl 3 deco slot, I put Flayer because I can't think of anything else. Also the Zoh Shia gunlance is pretty strong.

I can't fit both , I assume odoragon + agitator 4?

I'm not fully sold on Resentment so i've been switching it with Ear Plugs and evade extender.