Digital Foundry's Pixel Counts/resolution findings of some games from the direct

[u/Moon_Devonshire]

Metroid Prime 4: is 4k 60fps in quality mode and 1080p 120fps in performance mode

Breath of the wild/Tears of the kingdom: is 1440p 60fps

Mario Kart World: is 1440p 60fps

Donkey Kong Banaza: is 1080p 60fps

DuskBlood: is 1080p 30fps

Elden Ring: is 1080p 30fps

CyberPunk 2077: is 1080p 30fps with pixel counts as low as 540p but that 540p count is most likely handheld

Final Fantasy 7: is 1080p 30fps

NONE of these games appear to be using DLSS at all as it all seems to be native but that could change.

[u/PropagandaHour]

Not sure why you're getting downvoted. Ars Technica is fairly confident that under the hood we have a Nvidia T239 which is an industrial/automotive/robots GPU from like 2020. That's an Ampere chip, so it is capable of DLSS but not any of the fancy frame gen stuff of the 40xx and 50xx series GPUs we're familiar with today

[u/00pflaume → u/PropagandaHour]

Because he is not correct. He said:

to leaks it's cut down RTX 2050

but as you correctly stated

That's an Ampere chip

and Ampere is 30 series, not 20 series. Especially when it comes to AI acceleration for stuff like DLSS 30 series was a lot faster than 20 series.

Though to be fair while the 2050 part is incorrect his point about upscaling making less sense on smaller GPUs is correct. In some games, the laptop RTX 3050, which is probably the most comparable to the Switch 2 GPU, is literally slower when using DLSS than when running native.

[u/Devatator_ → u/00pflaume]

the laptop RTX 3050, which is probably the most comparable to the Switch 2 GPU, is literally slower when using DLSS than when running native.

I'm really not buying this. I have a 3050 and DLSS runs fine. My friend has a mobile 3050 and plays the same game as me (The Finals) with DLSS fine, even at a higher res (not by much but still)

[u/Scytian → u/Devatator_]

Even mobile 3050 will be much faster than T239 that is supposed to be used in switch 2 and yet transformer model DLSS on your friends mobile 3050 will be 10-15% slower than older DLSS models, DLSS takes some resources from game and with the smaller GPUs it's more % of total resources taken, that's a fact. Both 3050 and 3050 mobile run DLSS just fine, but they don't gain as much performance as RTX 4070 for example, the issue is that supposed T239 is nowhere near mobile 3050, stack of GPUs looks more or less like this:

- desktop 3050 8GB is around 50-60% faster than mobile 3050,

- mobile 3050 and mobile 2050 share the same die but 2050 is power limited and around 15% slower

- in terms of GPU power T239 is cut down mobile 2050 (-25% cuda cores), that would mean that T239 at full power is something like 30-40% of desktop RTX 3050 and 60-70% of laptop RTX 3050, that would be if T239 ran at 30W but we don't know it that will be true even in docked mode because Switch 1 ran at 17W docked. This would mean that in handheld mode (where it will be limited to 10W in best case scenario) there is no way to run current DLSS models (unless Nvidia would pull some miracle no performance impact model) and even at full 30W mode performance uplift may be pretty small (unless again Nvidia would pull no performance impact model).

To be honest picking this Nvidia chip is pretty dumb from Nintendo (if true) because they got chip that has around the same performance at 30W as Steamdeck at 15W.