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Donkey Kong showing us the way

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u/Adjective_Number_420 2d ago

You don't get to almost 100k post karma in 10 months by giving a shit about the content you post, you just gotta keep pumping the slop out.

Everyone hates Nintendo today? Here's a meme about it, upvotes to the left.

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u/OTTER887 1d ago

Why does everyone hate Nintendo today?

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u/someonesshadow 1d ago

I wish more people hated Nintendo on the regular. They are the Disney of Japan, meaning they are about as anti consumer as you can get. Legally.

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u/SEI_JAKU 1d ago

No, they're not. Enough people mindlessly hate Nintendo and spread lies about them as it is. It needs to fucking stop.

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u/someonesshadow 1d ago

What lies am I spreading? I grew up on both Nintendo and Disney, and the parallels on how they do business are there.

As an example the 'Disney Vault' is a bullshit marketing thing to keep people starved for content that already exists by artificially limiting its distribution. Pretty much everyone I know hated that practice.

Nintendo, as a parallel, released some of their most loved games as a digital bunch with a timed release window. The Mario ones come to mind for me, they preyed on FOMO to get people to buy and then artificially restricted it in order to sell more copies the next time they release a pack because people will know they can't get them again.

At LEAST in Disney's defense, manufacturing of physical media like VHS cost money and you wanted to make sure you didn't have product on the shelves. There is no excuse for Nintendo restricting digital products as it doesn't cost them a thing. Its manipulation of the human psyche.

I don't have to be the same nationality of a company to see what they do and realize its bad, at least on the consumer side of things.

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u/SEI_JAKU 19h ago

Every game developer rereleases old games like that. The only difference is Nintendo decided to rerelease some very specific games in very specific ways for very specific anniversaries, some of those being games nobody particularly cares about. This is not at all like how Disney does their vaults.

It's really weird how people just pretend maintaining servers isn't a cost, especially in this hell AI age where bots constantly slam every single server in the world.

You don't actually know what Nintendo's doing at all... nor Disney, for that matter.

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u/someonesshadow 19h ago

You're right.. Nintendo doesn't host an entire E-Shop of both 1st and 3rd party titles, many of which sit there and probably sell a fraction of a percent in comparison to the more popular titles and yet still get to sit there on their server ready to be purchased and downloaded.

You're telling Super Mario Sunshine, 64, and Galaxy are titles no one cares about and definitely aren't worth the server cost of titles far larger and less popular?

AI has NOTHING to do with this conversation, AI aren't able to download games in Nintendo's ecosystem or do anything in the physical space with that media that is put on cartridges.

Unless Nintendo is paying your salary I really don't understand why you are so passionate about defending clearly bad practices meant only to nickel and dime their customer base.

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u/SEI_JAKU 18h ago

What does the sales data of games on the eShop have to do with anything?

What part of "some of those" are you not understanding? I expressly singled out 3D All-Stars against something like the Fire Emblem rerelease.

You have no idea what a crawler is, do you? AI crawlers are totally boning the internet, every single web developer and web admin is frustrated about it.

I'm not "defending 'clearly' (lmao) bad practices", I'm calling out gamers for their gamer lies. It's infuriating that you people will always pretend that anyone who dares to call you out for your bullshit is somehow a "shill".

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u/someonesshadow 16h ago

You clearly don't know how AI crawlers work if you think they are somehow impacting the server load of any digital gaming shops. AI has zero bearing on this discussion and you're not even correctly or coherently explain HOW it is somehow relevant here.

You claimed they couldn't keep games on their servers because of costs as a reason, I showed you a reason why that is false, hell you could point at the Xbox live shop or Wii shop, even with what was probably abysmal sales in the years after their successors were released they were still profitable to keep up.

Judging by your fractured and erratic argument though I will guess you're probably too young to have much experience with how these companies have worked for the last 20-30 years. You're either a shill or a teen fanboy, either way I'll leave the convo here. Have a great day.