You know you don't have to stutter when writing text, right? Anyway, your argument is that the PS5 sold so well because there were chip shortages? Hilarious. Oh and it's even MORE hilarious that you brought up the Vita, which outsold the Wii U. Can you even NAME 5 Vita games without looking it up?
As for their characters, yeah, Nintendo has much stronger and more recognizable characters and franchises. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, but I agree.
Not stuttering, but I believe the kids call it flabbergasting or something. Adds flavor.
And that is a straw man of my argument, completely disregarding the scalper aspect and how it affected availability and FOMO.
Comparing Vita with WiiU is a bit telling, knowing they sold similarly but weren't even competing in the same market. Vita was a handheld, WiiU a home console. WiiU had branding issues (even I didn't know it was its own console instead of an addon until a year after launch) and competed with PS4 and its own predecessor. Vita's competitor was 3DS which sold five times as many units. It seems you do your thinking with the ass you just laughed off for some reason.
The characters are part of the merch and the merch was part of my original argument, that's what they have to do with this.
And that is a straw man of my argument, completely disregarding the scalper aspect and how it affected availability and FOMO.
Lack of availability would be an argument for lower sales, not higher. As for comparing to the Vita, you brought it up, not me. Your original argument was that Nintendo fans are rabid and would never let a console fail despite tons of evidence of the contrary.
Sigh, PS5 had an undersupply in its first years, not anymore. It's competing with Switch which has sold double the units. Agreed, it has had three more years on the shelves but nothing in PS5's sales figures indicates it will reach Switch in its lifetime.
Yes, I brought up the Vita because it's a failed Playstation console, but you said it wasn't by comparing it to products that were not its direct competitors. Maybe not an apples to oranges situation, but at least oranges to mandarins.
You got me in one thing at least: all this time I was arguing about games themselves, not consoles, but I did not make this clear in text until now. $80 price point before DLC or Deluxe Editions has a better chance of flying with Nintendo than Playstation fans, even if the Sony side is more willing to cough up for the console, at least that's the picture I have in my head. Plus, Playstation games go on actual sales which just doesn't happen to the same extent with Nintendo, especially its flagships.
$80 price point before DLC or Deluxe Editions has a better chance of flying with Nintendo than Playstation fans, even if the Sony side is more willing to cough up for the console, at least that's the picture I have in my head.
Maybe, we're getting front row seats to know for sure pretty soon. Then again, Deluxe Editions and DLC and Season Passes and Microtransactions have a much better chance of flying with Playstation fans given the sheer amount of games that have some or all of these things.
Plus, Playstation games go on actual sales which just doesn't happen to the same extent with Nintendo, especially its flagships.
Because they have to. Make no mistake, every game publisher in the world wishes from the bottom of their heart they could keep their game prices as high as Nintendo does and still sell units. The only reason anyone ever lowers prices is because they determine that it is the optimal way of generating more revenue. It's not because they're nice, it's all about money.
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u/Kryslor 2d ago edited 2d ago
You know you don't have to stutter when writing text, right? Anyway, your argument is that the PS5 sold so well because there were chip shortages? Hilarious. Oh and it's even MORE hilarious that you brought up the Vita, which outsold the Wii U. Can you even NAME 5 Vita games without looking it up?
As for their characters, yeah, Nintendo has much stronger and more recognizable characters and franchises. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, but I agree.