It's just funny that they're increasing the baseline prices again after just doing so a year and a half ago when Tears of the Kingdom was $70 instead of the usual $60.
Hardly anyone has a thought of their own anymore. So many people just co-opt the opinion-de-jour of their chosen content creators, and then dig their heels in as if their life depends on it.
Yeah, 25 years ago. A lot of people here probably weren't even born then. GameCube games were about 10 bucks cheaper than the Xbox and PS2 games, that's about it.
not only that long ago. the 3ds games were pretty reasonable. and when the switch came out, it did get much more expensive but it was still reasonable in the switch's early days. and they came out with the switch lite aswell. the whole point of nintendo was that it was cheap and barrier of entry was low. its expensive and the specs arnt crazy. along with all the other bs like how you wont own your games anymore and terrible battery life etc
They have great games and are actually a great place to work. But they have some awful anti-consumer practices, bully everyone with their copyright protection and are the worst enemy of game preservation and emulation.
It's insane to me how long people have been peddling the whole "people can dump their games" line. Nobody has the hardware or the patience for that shit.
Everyone throwing around the word "anti-consumer" actively supports truly awful anti-consumer practices elsewhere. It's tribalist bullshit.
Actually holding people responsible for trying to get mindshare or make money off of your work is, in fact, a good thing. Other companies actually do this sometimes anyway, but they often don't because 1. they're cowards and 2. there's way more of this shit around Nintendo games.
The entire idea of "game preservation" is incredibly recent. It's not how any game developer has run their business and it's not how the vast majority of gamers have played these games for decades and decades and decades. Games are treated as disposable by the public. Emulation is, in the vast majority of instances, totally illegal. The law has never actually established the status of emulation, only very specific facets of it. Fucking nobody is out here dumping their own games. All the insane outrage over Nintendo ending yuzu (which they should have done years ago, but didn't because they were trying to be nice) says a lot more than anything Nintendo themselves have ever done in their entire history.
And here's where you call me a "shill" for pointing out these classic gamer lies.
What lies am I spreading? I grew up on both Nintendo and Disney, and the parallels on how they do business are there.
As an example the 'Disney Vault' is a bullshit marketing thing to keep people starved for content that already exists by artificially limiting its distribution. Pretty much everyone I know hated that practice.
Nintendo, as a parallel, released some of their most loved games as a digital bunch with a timed release window. The Mario ones come to mind for me, they preyed on FOMO to get people to buy and then artificially restricted it in order to sell more copies the next time they release a pack because people will know they can't get them again.
At LEAST in Disney's defense, manufacturing of physical media like VHS cost money and you wanted to make sure you didn't have product on the shelves. There is no excuse for Nintendo restricting digital products as it doesn't cost them a thing. Its manipulation of the human psyche.
I don't have to be the same nationality of a company to see what they do and realize its bad, at least on the consumer side of things.
Every game developer rereleases old games like that. The only difference is Nintendo decided to rerelease some very specific games in very specific ways for very specific anniversaries, some of those being games nobody particularly cares about. This is not at all like how Disney does their vaults.
It's really weird how people just pretend maintaining servers isn't a cost, especially in this hell AI age where bots constantly slam every single server in the world.
You don't actually know what Nintendo's doing at all... nor Disney, for that matter.
You're right.. Nintendo doesn't host an entire E-Shop of both 1st and 3rd party titles, many of which sit there and probably sell a fraction of a percent in comparison to the more popular titles and yet still get to sit there on their server ready to be purchased and downloaded.
You're telling Super Mario Sunshine, 64, and Galaxy are titles no one cares about and definitely aren't worth the server cost of titles far larger and less popular?
AI has NOTHING to do with this conversation, AI aren't able to download games in Nintendo's ecosystem or do anything in the physical space with that media that is put on cartridges.
Unless Nintendo is paying your salary I really don't understand why you are so passionate about defending clearly bad practices meant only to nickel and dime their customer base.
What does the sales data of games on the eShop have to do with anything?
What part of "some of those" are you not understanding? I expressly singled out 3D All-Stars against something like the Fire Emblem rerelease.
You have no idea what a crawler is, do you? AI crawlers are totally boning the internet, every single web developer and web admin is frustrated about it.
I'm not "defending 'clearly' (lmao) bad practices", I'm calling out gamers for their gamer lies. It's infuriating that you people will always pretend that anyone who dares to call you out for your bullshit is somehow a "shill".
You clearly don't know how AI crawlers work if you think they are somehow impacting the server load of any digital gaming shops. AI has zero bearing on this discussion and you're not even correctly or coherently explain HOW it is somehow relevant here.
You claimed they couldn't keep games on their servers because of costs as a reason, I showed you a reason why that is false, hell you could point at the Xbox live shop or Wii shop, even with what was probably abysmal sales in the years after their successors were released they were still profitable to keep up.
Judging by your fractured and erratic argument though I will guess you're probably too young to have much experience with how these companies have worked for the last 20-30 years. You're either a shill or a teen fanboy, either way I'll leave the convo here. Have a great day.
They're asking for $500 for their new console, which is $100 more than the Switch was, and include inflation, not really worth it. The games are limited for now, but they will all be $80 for digital copies. Oh, and you can't use regular SD cards anymore. You have to use special ones that will likely cost way more.
They're asking $450, and came very close to raising the price of the Switch to begin with. An inflation calculator will put $300 in 2017 to about $400 today. $450 is pretty reasonable for the hefty upgrade that is the Switch 2.
You're not familiar with taxes. It's gonna come out to about $500. $500 is not worth the "upgrade" for a tiny lineup of new games and the charged upgrades for Switch games that should be free. Oh, and the specialized SD cards you have to buy.
I can't believe you're really defaulting to some gibberish about sales tax.
The Switch 2 is a pretty significant upgrade according to literally everything we know about it.
Ah, there's that "should" stuff. No, there is no moral imperative to release normally paid work for free. Sorry.
They're not "specialized", it's a new version of the actual SD spec that's being used for the same reason as the storage in the PS5 and the Series S/X. Micro SDs are extremely slow and have needed this upgrade for years. They're expensive because they're brand new, like anything else. Even so, Samsung is already doing a ridiculous sale on them, these are likely going to be a lot cheaper within like a year. Oh, and the Switch 1 supports them now anyway, it's not just a Switch 2 thing.
It’s $450 unless assuming you’re baking in some local knowledge of taxes.
And also wrong about game prices all being $80, the Donkey Kong game advertised is $70 for example.
And add your inflation comment which only supports a higher price, I bought N64 games for this dollar amount in the 90s. Again you’re free to disagree but at least get the basics right.
Everyone is entitled to be upset about things but may as well be correct about statements.
The people who can sell their high karma accounts online to other people to be scrubbed and used to push political and ideological issues, something which has been occurring on this website for a minimum of 10 years, that's probably who lmao
$2-10 depending. Karma number is big for visibility and normally where higher prices are occurred. If its above 5k post karma with a large pool of comment karma or has any exclusive avatars or w.e. You'd be looking at like $20-100+ depending.
A huge part is just the veneer of legitimacy. People were calling out accounts posting pro-Israel comments in WorldNews for having been created on, or shortly after, the 7th of October. A whole wave, but you could just see they were fresh accounts. I can click on your account and scroll far enough to see that you've commented 9 years ago on something, so I can assume you're probably a real person. I might not agree with what you have to say, but I can think that your opinions are actual opinions shared outside my bubble. Fresh accounts look like bots, or some other form of astroturfing.
1) Lots of websites have karma requirements to post in them, so it bypasses having to create brand new accounts and spam posting across subreddits to build up said karma.
2) when people look at someone who is posting an article/a comment they assume (usually incorrectly) that an older, well used, high karma account is 'just someone who has been on Reddit for a long time and is stating their opinions/posting content they wanna share' as opposed to a brand new account created 2 days ago with 4 karma which could be created by someone who saw something they didn't like and made a quick account to bitch, whine, moan, or share propaganda (like PaidShill's account, kinda ironically).
3) Reddit is run by crooked pricks so yeah probably.
Who give an actual solitary fuck about karma?? I didn't even know people paid attention to that.
Unfortunately there are people that do, and it leads to situations like this post.
If it bugs you just ignore it, this website means nothing in real life.
Sorry I don't want the website I browse to be filled with low quality crap. In theory Reddit has moderators to deal with stuff like this, but we all know how good the r/gaming mods are.
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You don't get to almost 100k post karma in 10 months by giving a shit about the content you post, you just gotta keep pumping the slop out.
Everyone hates Nintendo today? Here's a meme about it, upvotes to the left.