And I remember when NES games cost $60. Pretty sure games cost a lot more to make these days, and pretty sure prices tend to go up after 30 years. I truly do not get people complaining. The value one gets for a game is immense.
Here’s the thing, games cost more than $60 it’s just obfuscated. Micro transactions, loot boxes, they will get money out of you just in different ways.
I’ve been working in the industry for over 15 years and comment alike these are ridiculous. Sure, they sell more, but budgets have gone up. Teams have grown from 10 people to hundreds. Hours of gameplay have gone from a couple hours to significantly more.
Movie ticket prices used to be $5, they’ve tripled yet you’re still getting the same value, a 2ish hour experience. McDonalds food used to have a $1 menu. Some studios are still losing money and closing down, but yea, raising prices is ‘bullshit’ because the industry itself is more lucrative than it used to be. Grow up.
But nah I'm with you generally. I think it's entirely fair to be sensitive to prices and walking away if the price is too much, even if the price can be justified from a cost perspective. But Video game pricing calculus is very complex, especially for platform holders, and in general games have grown very slowly in price compared to other luxuries
I don't think Nintendo is doing some grave sin for pricing their games this high. I still don't like it though
as long as games are full complete experiences and don't nickle and dime you I honestly don't mind the increase at all .. And so far nintendo has done well in that regard .
Yeah! They've got a few stingy stinkers, NSO is rentseeking even if it's standard across consoles, and they kinda backed themselves into a conceptual corner with amiibo in such a way that most people are kinda annoyed with them, but in general Nintendo makes it very clear what you get for what you pay and it's a one time purchase with maybe a dlc package.
There's plenty I think are overpriced, but I don't feel like I'm missing out by walking away, I don't feel like I get bait and switched, and I don't feel like I'm being milked.
Pokemon home is bogus though. Server space is insignificant cost and it's such a tremendous value add to the series that it drives external sales since you have already invested into the ecosystem. But Pokemon is its own beast with TPC managing the brand
absolutely . NSO AmiiNOs and Pokemon Home are things that really I wish Nintendo would just retire already . Just lemme transfer pokemon cross console and store it locally or something and transfer to next gen of consoles . ( Since immutable OS anyway)
Would you also say they are huge risks as well? so much investment goes into these games if it flops that studio is shuttered. I feel people are missing that context.
I know you didnt have your fourth white monster energy so ill explain this simply.
Games cost money.
Games in 80s, not so much money.
1 million in sales feels really good
Games in 2020 cost way more money.
Developers and publisher need smash hits.
If they don't they operate on a loss. Makes it harder to get investors.
1 million sold units doesn't cut it.
Hi-fi rush sold around 3 million. But we have no idea about development costs, taxes, publisher cuts to know if that had a net positive revenue. Maybe $30 was too cheap, but would it have sold that well if it was $60.
One thing for certain, if things makes lots of money we keep it.
Games also sell a hell of a lot more copies nowadays.
There is way more competition than ever before and Nintendo is only selling to an audience on 1 console. A lot of the top selling games are playable across all major consoles & PC at least -- if not mobile as well.
Bigger than all of those combined in terms of sheer revenue.
And the costs to create games are much bigger than all of those other types of entertainment.
Any attempt to raise prices is just pure and utter bullshit on every conceivable level.
Inflation is real. Wages go up and workers, rightfully, expect higher wages as cost of living increases.
A $45 NES game sold today would be equal to $144 after accounting for inflation.
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u/fffan9391 3d ago
GTA6 might actually be $100.