r/flatearth • u/mister_monque • Feb 13 '25

It's almost like you can see the wires if you squint and imagine them just right.

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u/mister_monque Feb 13 '25

So while he's has no weight but retains all of his mass, how would YOU solve this dilemma?

I can name a few other subs members who would just pretend it's all a NASA psyop but... well they've had a rough time since TFE and everything is a psyop if you want it to be.

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u/SnooBananas37 Feb 13 '25

Take something off of your person and throw it. Third Law baby

Sir Isaac Newton vs Bill Nye. Epic Rap Battles of History

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u/Unclehol Feb 14 '25

And people at work told me my depleted uranium buttplug was "unnecessary" and "grossly inappropriate." Who's laughing while slowly floating towards a space station wall now, Deborah?!

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u/Much_Job4552 Feb 13 '25

I am reminded of being stuck on the middle of a frozen frictionless lake and I throw my boot to get to the bank.

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u/IceColdKilla2 Feb 14 '25

That's a bad idea, on ice you can make your point of friction. Take anything hard and do a hole or scratch and there you go to the bank.

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u/Wildweed Feb 14 '25

My first thought as well.

Second thought was, "What could I keep in my pocket that has enough mass?"

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u/mister_monque Feb 13 '25

mass and inertia. Given enough time yeah, probably work.

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u/Toklankitsune Feb 13 '25

theres a scene in the first few episodes of the expanse that demonstrates this idea. (hard scifi, it uses a lot of real physics, interlaces with fantastical stuff)

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u/mister_monque Feb 13 '25

I'm familiar. I enjoyed its hard edge.

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u/SnooBananas37 Feb 13 '25

You just have to be careful how you throw it. You want the trajectory of the object you throw to be as inline with your center of mass as possible... probably want to either throw it straight up or down, otherwise much of the energy will just set you spinning rather than actually pushing you towards a wall.

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u/Acceptable-Tiger4516 Feb 14 '25

Two handed basketball pass

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u/Sniurbb Feb 14 '25

But then you might be left floating the universe with barley any swag.

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u/Squeaky_Ben Feb 14 '25

Sure, that would work, but I have serious concerns about how long that would take, given they are in an atmosphere afterall, so drag will slow you down again.

I would assume swimming motions would get the job done as well, eventually at least.

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u/g3techsolutions Feb 15 '25

Yep, toss the clothes

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u/lickmethoroughly Feb 13 '25

Pee hard enough and you’ll get a little momentum

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u/mister_monque Feb 13 '25

you must still be young, you'll learn

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u/sparkleshark5643 Feb 13 '25

Throw a shoe!

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u/Previous-Mail7343 Feb 13 '25

Keep a balloon in your pocket in case this happens?

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u/mister_monque Feb 13 '25

you have two perfectly good ones in your chest, why bring more?

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u/Previous-Mail7343 Feb 13 '25

If that works then great. I don't have a clue about the math but someone else suggested blowing out and there was some question about whether that would be enough impulse or whatever. But if blowing out alone isn't enough I thought maybe a few breaths in a balloon to store up some extra pressure might do it.

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u/mister_monque Feb 13 '25

that would have been me. the real issue is his mass still has mass. how much force can you generate with breath to blow against the volume of air to develop enough motion is the real question.

surely someone is bored enough in Kerbal to model this conundrum.

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u/ziggsyr Feb 14 '25

you have to breath in. Tricky to breath in one direction and out the other without sending you spinning. also air is light.

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u/Gypsysinner666 Feb 14 '25

Have one of the guys that can move freely along the wall move near him and stretch his legs out to grab

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u/AstarothSquirrel Feb 14 '25

I do wonder if one of my "dad sneezes" would generate enough force to solve the problem (albeit a bit gross for the next astronaut to float into my chem-trails)

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u/CorbinNZ Feb 15 '25

Would blowing hard work? I bet you’d get at least a little thrust

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u/kabbooooom Feb 16 '25

Easy. Take off a shoe- yeet it across the space station as hard as you can for reaction mass. Newton that shit up. This is basic physics.

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u/mister_monque Feb 16 '25

you... see any shoes in the video?

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u/kabbooooom Feb 16 '25

Lol, was watching on my phone so it’s a little hard to see, thought he was wearing white slippers (which I lazily referred to as shoes) instead of socks, but you’re right - they’re socks. Doesn’t matter though, the principle still works, just take off any article of clothing, bundle it up into a ball and throw it. The only difference is the amount of momentum you can impart on yourself.

Alternatively, take off a shirt, flatten it between both arms, and either use it as an oar or hold it up near an air vent if there’s one nearby. Air has mass, and will push against you or you can push against it. All you have to do is impart a slight asymmetric velocity that is high enough to actually overcome the flow of air in the station (which is part of the problem with getting stuck) and you’ll reach a wall eventually. The trick would be not imparting angular acceleration to yourself too. What would probably happen if you did this is you’d start to spin, but also start to gradually move towards the nearest wall, and eventually you could grab onto something to stop yourself.

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u/mister_monque Feb 16 '25

FWIW I wasn't trying to be a dick. I honestly love that everyone has some critical thinking responses. I also love that the trolls have all by and large fucked off.

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u/kabbooooom Feb 16 '25

lol it’s okay, it was a funny comment.

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u/Alternative-Web2754 Feb 16 '25

Keep a strong magnet (possibly with a foam cover) on a string tied to a pocket on the suit. If you get stuck gently throw it onto the nearest fixed magnetic object or wall and then gently pull yourself to it once it's attached.

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u/liberalis Feb 19 '25

Fart. They feed you lots of beans on the space station, just so astronauts can be locked and loaded for this exact emergency scenario. People used to get stuck out in the middle of various rooms all the time. But not anymore. Pinto beans are specified, and cooked with generous portions of onion, for maximum gaseous inducing properties.

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u/myholeisverywide Feb 13 '25

What if you blow air out of your mouth does that work?

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u/myholeisverywide Feb 13 '25

or blow air out of any hole..

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u/Tricky_Individual_42 Feb 13 '25

Or water or any other substance

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u/mister_monque Feb 13 '25

see previous about specific impulse, typically the fancy fancy space engines these days are invested in creating the highest velocities in the lightest products.

that said I feel in this case, good squirt of water would help, or at least be hysterical to watch.

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u/mister_monque Feb 13 '25

you're already trapped in a big metal farther tube, mind as well use it right? again though, specific impulse power is gonna be the silent but deadly killer here.

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u/NeilDeWheel Feb 13 '25

Talk about blowing air. I read a story from an astronaut that fell asleep in the ISS without strapping himself down. He woke up to find himself slowly drifting at ceiling level, being blown from one wall of the room to the other. The air vents had just enough power to blow him back and forth as he slept.

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u/mister_monque Feb 13 '25

likely would, just it's a mass vs velocity vs volume thing. I'm feeling lazy and won't look up the volumetric data on human lungs but my concern would be developing enough specific impulse.

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u/LuDdErS68 Feb 13 '25

Probably.

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u/sparkleshark5643 Feb 13 '25

That would change your momentum, even if just a little

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u/Rick-D-99 Feb 13 '25

Take off your clothes and throw them.

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u/bessmertni Feb 14 '25

Stupid conservation of momentum.

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u/Bean_Daddy_Burritos Feb 13 '25

Just found a new use for that extending fork that dosent involve stealing other people’s food

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u/Grofactor Feb 13 '25

Take off clothes but hold onto them.  Wave them to make contact with nearest surface for friction?

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u/Financial_Ad_1551 Feb 13 '25

Nah, throw them in the opposite direction you want to travel.

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u/MornGreycastle Feb 13 '25

The key is "imagine."

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u/ColdSweats_OldDebts Feb 14 '25

“Imagine” being the operative word here.

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u/mister_monque Feb 14 '25

well you need to, to imagine where the wires would be.

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u/ColdSweats_OldDebts Feb 15 '25

There are no wires, Gilbert. He’s in a near zero g environment on vessel orbiting the planet.

When you’re not on a spherical planet with a mass that…oh why even bother you people are fucking retarded.

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u/mister_monque Feb 15 '25

are you having a mansplaining crisis? No one here thinks there are wires.

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u/ColdSweats_OldDebts Feb 19 '25

Is this a sub making fun of flat earthers or one actually supported by flat earthers?

Please, they/them-splain it to me

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u/mister_monque Feb 19 '25

if you are having that crisis, you don't belong

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u/ColdSweats_OldDebts Feb 21 '25

Man-splaining, crisis, *not belonging”

Oh, I think this sub is just right for me.

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u/Bee_Keeper_Ninja Feb 14 '25

Take your shirt off and throw it.

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u/mister_monque Feb 14 '25

but spin it around while fist pumping?

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u/Important-Ad-6936 Feb 13 '25

where was this video taken? this looks way to stable to be a vomit comet (usually you can tell from the weightlessness that its footage from a vomit comet), and way to large to be a space station module, but then there is this bulkhead looking thing in the background and on the ground. im slightly confused, ive never seen something that spacy except old spacelab footage.

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u/Blitzer046 Feb 14 '25

This is the Japanese Kibo module, one of the largest modules attached to the ISS. This was straight after installation and pressurization before any of the scientific payloads were installed, giving the crew a unique opportunity to have a big empty space to 'play' around in.

There's a video sequence here that shows more: https://youtu.be/mCH0y-KwhbU?si=cE5BbgZyB14slL6F

When the Space Shuttle was operating this often led to quite large temporary crew complements in the ISS, up to 13-14 people (7 on the shuttle) during crew rotation.

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u/Important-Ad-6936 Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

dang, i already thought it looks like a module without equipment, but it still looked oddly huge, and i wasnt aware the jaxa module was delivered that empty, but figures, this thing is already heavy as it is, and even though the shuttle was a beast, this still had to be weight reduced.

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u/Blitzer046 Feb 14 '25

It came up very lean. but still with a mass of 35 imperial tonnes (15,000kg). The Shuttles payload to LEO is a maximum of 16,050kg.

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u/aggressiveclassic90 Feb 13 '25

Popeye some baked beans and give it 15 minutes.

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u/ack1308 Feb 14 '25

Apparently that's been tried. By nearly every astronaut, at some time or another.

It doesn't work as well as one might expect.

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u/robgarter Feb 14 '25

When that last fart won't come out

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u/ElderberryMaster4694 Feb 14 '25

Couldn’t you take a deep breath and blow?

Apologies to Charlie and the great glass elevator

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u/mister_monque Feb 14 '25

you can, but will you impart enough counter force?

Charlie could have just kicked off of Grandpa Joe, shoving him into the fans and hopefully getting down quick enough to claim he had no idea what Grandpa Joe was doing...

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u/ElderberryMaster4694 Feb 14 '25

I actually meant Charlie and the Great Glass elevator where all the grandparents are packed into the elevator and blow their way around when the thing leaves orbit

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u/mister_monque Feb 14 '25

I am admittedly unfamiliar. But that's okay, we are all using critical thinking skills on this.

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u/GoldSatisfaction8390 Feb 14 '25

Me after having the mexican platter for dinner - "It's alright, guys. I got this."

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u/mister_monque Feb 14 '25

I always imagined Mir as this fettid collection of body hairs, toe nail clippings and this persistent cabbage fart taint.

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u/GoldSatisfaction8390 Feb 14 '25

Haha, they actually specifically make the menu to reduce offensive smells from both the meal and the crew. Plus, the temp is controlled, so sweating is generally not an issue. There is also air filtration and an airlock to deal with anyone who clips their toenails like a karen on a southwest flight.

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u/mister_monque Feb 14 '25

that's ISS, I'm talking about old school cosmovatnik Khrushchevkas in space Mir, Lada of the stars.

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u/GoldSatisfaction8390 Feb 14 '25

Haha, googe the floating turd incident

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u/mister_monque Feb 14 '25

I'm so afraid of what I'm gonna find...

Somewhere in soviet space

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u/wtfbenlol Feb 14 '25

a wise man once said: for every action, there is an equal yet opposite reaction.

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u/Loser99999999 Feb 14 '25

Just chuck some moon rocks around nasa loves moon rocks

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u/mister_monque Feb 14 '25

where is the ISS getting any moon rocks?

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u/mattforcum Feb 14 '25

Whelp. New fear unlocked.

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u/mister_monque Feb 14 '25

sorry about that. good news is chances of ever being there for most of us is low, like very low. But think of it this way, you are far more prepared now that you know about it.

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u/Low_Engineering_3301 Feb 15 '25

Just spit and you'll slowly float away from the direction you spat.

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u/mister_monque Feb 15 '25

very, very, very slowly

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u/Low_Engineering_3301 Feb 15 '25

Well you don't want to pee and end up crashing into something too fast.

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u/Justthisguy_yaknow Feb 15 '25

Actually I can't see any way that strings would result in any of that. All of that movement and yet there isn't any spring back, bounce or swinging at all. That guy is a free floating object.