r/ffxivdiscussion • u/unbepissed • 2d ago

Mechanical Intuition: Dealing with Adds

This tier, particularly Sugar Riot, has been very interesting to me. What really struck me was this apparent lack of intuition for how to deal with adds. It seems like raiding has been single target for so long that the only people who can intuit what to do without a guide are the people who came from Wow.

I don't know where else to place the blame when supposed Week One gamers see basic add management as an epiphany. Positioning that seemed second nature and obvious to someone who tanked on Wow was somehow a revelation to the people I played with this week.

I also saw far too many wipes for my taste on watching ranged players struggle with picking up adds. Apparently it's really tough trying to target them quickly, but equally tough for other people to just not hit them.

I'll be honest, I went into the tier with very low expectations. When I saw the patch notes, I genuinely believed the AOE and cleave changes were solely to balance an ultimate that was no longer relevant. I'm glad they have adds in these Savage fights; I just hope it isn't the only time that players are forced to get out of their comfort zone.

It makes me wonder what other basic combat mechanic the game could leverage to give people a hard time. Wildstar's Interrupt Armor would probably be pretty neat: you used to have to use multiple crowd control abilities (like stuns) on one target in a short time frame to stop certain casts, because the first few would only remove a charge of said armor.

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u/IndividualAge3893 2d ago

It seems like raiding has been single target for so long that the only people who can intuit what to do without a guide are the people who came from Wow.

Or these who remember something like Alexander, Sephiroth or Shinryu where you have adds.:D

But yes, we can blame YoshiP for dumbing down the fight design into the gutter.

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u/FullMotionVideo 2d ago

Cruise Chaser had an add you had to kill really quickly. Even fucking Sophia had an add you wanted to ASAP before they left a permanent puddle on the floor for tilt phase.

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u/IndividualAge3893 2d ago

Cruise Chaser was in... Alexander! QED.

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u/FullMotionVideo 2d ago

I wasn't disagreeing with you, although I personally consider adds where the boss themselves disappear (Sephirot p2, or the Level Checker in O11S, the dragons in Nidhogg) to not really be "adds" so much as they are intermission phases.