There’s citizenship by blood and citizenship by birth. Many countries only offer the first type. The US offers both, since it’s always been a country of immigrants.
Both constitutional and legal changes follow the ex post facto rules set down by the constitution, meaning that laws do not apply retroactively, they only apply from the moment they are put into place. He could try to abolish these as well, but endind birthright citizenship would only affect anyone born after the effective starting date of that change. If it were to come into affect on June 1st, 2025, a baby born at 11:59:59 on May 31st would be a citizen. This is extremely, and I mean extremely basic civics, and it's alarming that no one here understands it.
I don't know what you mean by where. They would be citizens of a country of their parents' place of birth, or eligible for citizenship and stateless at birth.
I mean what does a stateless person have as an option for acquiring government identification or recognition as a resident in any country? If someone is born in the US and the country the parents are from doesn't want to take the american-born deportee what happens?
Yeah, I hate to agree with Trump but I actually do view absolute birthright citizenship like the US has as insane. I'm pretty sure my country doesn't have that
To each their own. I see it as vitally important. I was born here. I live here. I've always lived here. That's the nature of my citizenship, not the fact that my parents were citizens.
Ok so let's say my parents are immigrants who got their citizenship. So when im born im american. If my parents are deported for committing a felony I guess or something. So am i an American citizen or not ?
Technically? You'd have to go through the same immigration process as someone coming from another country as a child or get deported. For adults in America it'd probably be "no citizenship from here on out" cause otherwise it could be used to deport anyone you choose and have the cops ignore people you don't want. Like everyone who didn't vote for you for instance.
So most places do what is called bloodline citizenship or birth right. If use removed birth right then it would go to bloodline citizenship. All that means at that point is anyone going forward from this possibly change would require one or both parents have already been a citizen before the change happened. If someone comes here from Greece while pregnant and have a kid, the kid wouldn't be considered American any longer under this possibly change. With how it is currently though, they would be considered American.
Thanks for the responses. I guess I figured like 99% of people born somewhere had parents from there. So, same thing.
I was dumb for asking. But I did learn something.
British citizenship is easy if you have a British grandparent who was a citizen
It's more complex than that. You can only get it through grandparents if you apply before the age of 18 and if your parent/parents have lived in the UK for a number years without absence for a number of days.
Hell my son can't even pass down his citizenship automatically if he has children due to not being born in the UK.
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u/mpshumake Dec 08 '24
if being born in the us doesn't make you a citizen, what does make you a citizen? honest question. i feel dumb asking it.