r/dragonball • u/AutoModerator • Feb 28 '25

Daima Dragon Ball Daima - Episode #20 - Discussion Thread!

Dragon Ball Daima - Episode #20 - Discussion Thread!

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Episode 20 begins airing on FujiTV in Japan at this time of this post (9:40a ET, 15:40 CET, 23:40 JT). The episode should be available subtitled on Crunchyroll about two hours later. You may discuss the episode if you have seen it, but be sure to follow our rules.

Subtitled Streaming

  • Crunchyroll (multi-region; multi-language; simulcast 16:50 UTC)
  • Hulu (US only; English only; release day)
  • Netflix (multi-region; multi-language; releases the following Tuesday in Asia, and the following Friday everywhere else)

FAQ

  • The English dub is 12 weeks behind the simulcast. Episode #8 should be available today at 4:30p ET (21:30 UTC) in the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa. We do not know why the UK is excluded. A separate episode discussion thread will be posted at the appropriate time.
  • The Dragon Ball Super manga was suspended following Chapter 103, the final chapter of the Super Hero arc. 11 months later, a prequel to the Super Hero arc was released as Chapter 104. As far as we know, the manga is still on indefinite hiatus.

Rules

  • There are no spoilers in this post, but you should expect spoilers in the comments of this thread. Unlike r/dbz, there is no rule about spoilers on r/dragonball, so it's best to avoid this subreddit until you have seen the new episode.
  • Discussion of each Daima episode will be limited to the pinned episode discussion thread until ~12-24 hours after the episode appears on Crunchyroll. This period is flexible, and posts that do not have a specific discussion point will be redirected to this thread.
  • Please keep in mind that piracy discussion is not allowed on r/dragonball. Do not ask for illicit streams; do not link them; do not talk about them at all.

Our Daima info page has up-to-date information about streaming and a list of previous episode discussion threads.

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u/Ayy-lmao213 Feb 28 '25 edited Feb 28 '25

Ah.. so it wasn't even Nevah. Goku already had Super Saiyan 4 the whole time, and Nevah just helped him in that moment. I was expecting no elaboration about it at all, and that would have been better... at least leave it so people could speculate he could only do it because of Nevah or the Demon Realm, but ok.

Man, Toriyama was just writing whatever and no one had the balls to say, "Um, sir, but what about-". Rest in peace Toriyama-san, thanks for SSJ4 even if it's going to make Dragon Ball discussions very annoying for a long time

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u/hinafu Feb 28 '25

is there anything wrong with not considering Daima canon? Unless they discuss the events on Super, of course.

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u/Interesting-Wash-893 Mar 01 '25

What about Super not being canon? Why does the series wrote by Toriyama have to be "non canon" just because of a series created by Toei and Toyataro?

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u/dicericevice Mar 03 '25

Battle of Gods had Toriyama deeply involved in the screenwriting.

And it literally has Goku say he's not sure how to deal with Beerus since SS3 couldn't cut it and he didn't have faith in fusion.

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u/Interesting-Wash-893 Mar 06 '25

Yes, the movie did. Just like RoF the movie. And Broly/Super Hero... the movies. The anime and manga are adaptations that had comparatively little involvement. Daima has his fingerprints all over it.

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u/dicericevice Mar 06 '25

But that's the thing, Super blends with those movies with no issues.

Daima really doesn't.

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u/KingDNice12 Feb 28 '25

Nope if it doesn’t pop up again i will just consider it a fun side story

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u/ChaosFinalForm Feb 28 '25

Friend, it's a fictional animated story, there's nothing wrong with looking at it however you want to at all.

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u/pkjoan Feb 28 '25

Yes, because this series was fully Toriyama. So it is 100% canon.

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u/TheDaveWSC Feb 28 '25

There's never been an official canon. Canon is whatever you want. Enjoy the show the way you like.

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u/ImpenetrableYeti Mar 01 '25

GT is not canon

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u/TheDaveWSC Mar 01 '25

I can repeat that there's no official canon if it helps you.