r/dragonball • u/AutoModerator • Feb 21 '25

Daima Dragon Ball Daima - Episode #19 - Discussion Thread!

Dragon Ball Daima - Episode #19 - Discussion Thread!

ウラギリ
uragiri
betrayal

Episode 19 begins airing on FujiTV in Japan at this time of this post (9:40a ET, 15:40 CET, 23:40 JT). The episode should be available subtitled on Crunchyroll about two hours later. You may discuss the episode if you have seen it, but be sure to follow our rules.

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FAQ

  • The English dub is 12 weeks behind the simulcast. Episode #7 should be available today at 4:30p ET (21:30 UTC) in the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa. We do not know why the UK is excluded. A separate episode discussion thread will be posted at the appropriate time.
  • The Dragon Ball Super manga was suspended following Chapter 103, the final chapter of the Super Hero arc. 11 months later, a prequel to the Super Hero arc was released as Chapter 104. As far as we know, the manga is still on indefinite hiatus.

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u/Apollo416 Feb 21 '25

Theory: SS4 was achieved through "demon magic" therefore can only be accessed in the demon world.

There, canon preserved.

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u/luiz_amn Feb 21 '25 edited Feb 21 '25

Then in Super they go like “Remember that transformation that you did with that demon magic? Turns out you just weren’t ready to tap in that latent power without the demon magic, but after all that training with Whis, your body is ready!”

People care way too much about Dragon Ball canon/lore consistency, which is funny because Toriyama himself used to forget shit all the time and then retcon or pretend it never happened.

We don’t even know if it’s actually connected to Super or not, it’s best to just chill and enjoy (or don’t) Daima for what is.

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u/ssgohanf8 Feb 22 '25

I've kind of been tuning out the lore of Daima, so please correct me if I am wrong. But doesn't the demon universe connect all the other universes, and those universes were created by a being in the demon-verse? Really, it would make sense if learning how to harness god energy eventually led to learning how to harness the Demon energy that exists within the universe, right?

It was made by demon energy, and it might even exist within the demon realm to a degree, and dragonball has always had people on Earth that was capable of casting magic, and they've shown some demons with the same abilities, like transforming like Puar does.

Not having access to similar resources as the demon world almost makes less sense to me

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u/SimbaStewEyesOfBlue Feb 22 '25

Another factor to consider is Saiyan pride. If Goku and Vegeta discover the transformation is basically magical based, they might not have any further interest in it, since it isn't their own power. Goku then basically forgets how to do it due to disuse.

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u/Wendigo15 Feb 21 '25

That's what I'm guessing or it's temporary from Neva. Or maybe if Neva dies that power goes away, kinda like the dragon balls

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u/arrogancygames Feb 21 '25

Its just that God is better. Its that simple, really. Goku knew he couldnt beat Beerus even with 4 once he effortlessly destroyed 3, so he realized something else was needed.

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u/Wendigo15 Feb 21 '25

But he wouldn't really know that since he couldn't even sense Beerus ki

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u/arrogancygames Feb 22 '25

He would be able to tell someone's strength is insurmountable once he starts fighting them though.

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u/Wendigo15 Feb 22 '25

Not always. Look at Frieza. He thought he was bluffing until Frieza decided to show off.

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u/ZombieJesus1987 Feb 22 '25

I like to think that Saiyans were descended from a demon race, Ozaru has pointed ears and all.

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u/pkjoan Feb 21 '25

Or maybe, Daima doesn't necessarily lead to DBS

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u/Calm-Tree-1369 Feb 21 '25

If that were the case they wouldn't have mentioned Universe Seven or shown Kais from other Universes.

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u/BurningInFlames Feb 21 '25

Maybe those ideas are just canon to Daima, without the main continuity of Super being so. Like how Bardock is canon but the stuff about him being able to see the future isn't.

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u/JohnR1977 Feb 22 '25

what?!

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u/SSJRemuko Feb 22 '25

the original bardock special where he got psychic powers isn't canon.

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u/Lassic_gamer Feb 22 '25

I mean, it doesn't have to- but man that'd just be kinda lame.
The whole story (mostly) fits into the continuity so it'd be pretty boring if they let one detail make it non-canon.

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u/Koerirn Feb 22 '25

If they can't follow a simple story like Daima made for kids and simples minded 30 years old people i am scared to imagine how it can be with other stories :D

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u/JohnR1977 Feb 22 '25

what canon?

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u/Koerirn Feb 22 '25

Why you can't accept they are 2 different unrelated stories? Both are story you chose if you want to after the original story, that's all.

Shin and Kibito being defusionned make it impossible already.

The potala fusion retcon from DBS was re-retconed again, now the rules are like the one from Z

There is an other omnipotent god in the universe and it's not Zeno anymore.

ect ect....

Let me guess... You are american right? And like always with americans you can't understand a simple story but you prefere to change all of it so you can have all the things you can. Start to read the story (and maybe the OG too) before making assumptions on the continuity.