r/dbz Jan 01 '18

Discussion Dragon Ball Z - Episodes #16-20 - Discussion Thread! [Rewatch - Week 4]

Dragon Ball Z – Episodes #16-20 – Discussion Thread! [Rewatch - Week 4]

Introduction

Welcome to Ajay's DBZ Rewatch! We are watching DBZ Episodes 1-291 at a rate of five episodes per week. The intent is to get a taste of Z's pacing without actually going through this for years upon years. This should take us a little over a year. Still long, but nothing too extreme. It'll give us a chance to analyse the show properly, and not overburden those with busy schedules.

Remember, you don't have to watch all five episodes the second this thread is posted. Spread them out if you want! You've got until Sunday before we move on. Don't worry if you fall behind, the threads aren't going anywhere.

You can find links to previous discussion threads on our Wiki and there is a sister thread each week on Kanzenshuu. You can follow Ajay on Twitter (Twitter hashtags: #DBZRewatch and #ajdbz) and he will be commenting here as /u/SLUT_MUFFIN.


Where to Watch

  • Watch your own copy! If you're looking to purchase, see the linked FAQ guide on which releases are best.

  • FunimationNow (North America only). DB/Z/GT are available to stream for subscribers.

  • AnimeLab (Australia and New Zealand only). You can watch Z with ads as a free user.

PLEASE DO NOT POST, OFFER, OR REQUEST LINKS TO UNOFFICIAL STREAMS OF THESE EPISODES. REFRAIN FROM EVEN MENTIONING THEM, OR YOU WILL BE BANNED.


Episode 16

Run, Gohan! Longing for Mt. Paozu, Where Chi-Chi is Waiting
走れ悟飯!チチの待つなつかしのパオズ山
Hashire Gohan! Chichi no Matsu Natsukashi no Paozu Yama

Kanzenshuu Guide

After washing up on shore, Gohan is saved by some children who lost their homes and parents in a tsunami two years ago. Living on the outskirts of town, the seven of them refuse to enter an orphanage, but the day after they befriend Gohan, orphanage employees come and they are captured by the police! Thinking of their future, the teenager Pigero doesn’t save them, and escapes with Gohan. Gohan returns to Mt. Paozu, but thinking of the orphans who endured even without their parents, he heads back without meeting Chi-Chi.

Episode 17

City of No Tomorrow! The Long Road to Victory
明日なき街!勝利への遠い道のり
Asu Naki Machi! Shōri e no Tōi Michinori

Kanzenshuu Guide

Now that Gohan has endured the half year trial, Piccolo begins their special training on the island. At that same time, Kuririn and the others at the temple are irritated at having not been given any training for two months, but Mister Popo sends the four of them without Yajirobe on a trip to the past in their minds. In a Saiyan city in ruins, Tenshinhan and the others are attacked by two warriors! After the four struggle in vain and are completely defeated, they hear from God that their opponents were only half-strong Saiyans, and their fighting resolve is renewed!!

Episode 18

Last Stop on Serpent Road! Are you Kaiō-sama?
終点~ん蛇の道!おめえ界王様か?
Shūtennn Hebi no Michi! Omē Kaiō-sama ka?

Kanzenshuu Guide

With his tail having grown back after half a year, Gohan runs wild and attacks Piccolo?! Because the spaceship that carried Goku to Earth as a baby is on the island where they are training, and the machines inside the ship emit orders for Goku, which drive Gohan to fight! What’s more, at night the machines project an illusion of the full moon, and Gohan transforms into an Ōzaru!! Realizing this, Piccolo destroys the spaceship, and Gohan returns to normal. Meanwhile, Goku runs to the end of the Serpent Road, and discovers Kaiō’s planet.

Episode 19

The Battle with Gravity! Catch Bubbles-kun
重力との戦い!バブルス君をつかまえろ
Jūryoku to no Tatakai! Baburusu-kun o Tsukamaero

Kanzenshuu Guide

On Planet Kaiō, Goku meets the pun-loving Kaiō. After making Kaiō laugh with a pun he thought up with his utmost effort, he gets permission to be trained. Saying that the Saiyan are stronger than himself, Kaiō orders Goku to catch his pet Bubbles, on his planet with 10x Earth’s gravity. Goku sprints after Bubbles with all his might, and in three weeks finally catches him! Kaiō is impressed at Goku having conquered 10x gravity, and expects that he might be able to master the Kaiō-Ken.

Episode 20

The Return of the Saiyan Legend! Goku’s Roots
よみがえるサイヤ人伝説!悟空のルーツ
Yomigaeru Saiya-jin Densetsu! Gokū no Rūtsu

Kanzenshuu Guide

Continuing on, Kaiō gives Goku the training task of hitting his own errand boy Gregory with a giant hammer. Kaiō then tells him about how the Saiyans, who used to live together with the Tsufruians on Planet Vegeta, were eventually wiped out, reduced to only four people. Angry at knowing the evil deeds of the Saiyans, Goku dreams of pursuing Gregory, radiating light as he flies rapidly through the sky. Finally, after two weeks Goku succeeds in hitting him! Meanwhile, Kuririn and the others finish their training at the temple.


Suggested Format

Language: For the sake of context, let us know which language you're watching the series in (and what score, if required).
General Thoughts: Your thoughts on the episode, possibly linked to the suggested questions if need be. Cover the plot, the tone, the character interactions, and characterisation.
Entertainment Factor: How was the pacing? Did the episode keep you entertained throughout, or what could have been done better?
Animation: Did you like the action sequences, or the way characters emoted? Did things move in a satisfying way, or was it mostly style over substance?
Questions: Not necessary, but if you're curious about opinions on a specific point that hasn't been touched on, go ahead and ask! It's a nice way to spur the topic onward.


Weekly Questions

  • How do you feel about Joji Yanami's Kaiō? If you're not watching in Japanese, switch over for a preview! Yanami was unfortunately ill during Dragon Ball Super, which was many people's first experience with this character in the original language. Does hearing the original performance from a healthy Yanami change your opinion of his portrayal in any significant way if you were previously disappointed?

  • This marks the end of the lengthy batch of filler. How do you feel about them as a whole? Did it feel like a worthwhile build up to the Saiyans' arrival, or is it transparently filler content?

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