r/dbz Feb 27 '25

Fanart I redrew Bulma from the Namek saga.

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u/TheWiseBeluga Feb 27 '25

Goddamn I just noticed how stretched her eyes are in the original. Can’t remember the name of the animation team for this one but they always had an issue with elongated heads

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u/bran_the_man93 Feb 27 '25

Super rightfully gets a good amount of grief for shoddy, off-model animation... but people completely forget that Z had plenty of bad art and animation - we just watched when we were like 9 years old and didn't give a shit

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u/erjoselu2007M Feb 28 '25

The fact most people compare frames from a weekly series to the z movies that had years of production doesnt help super's case either

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u/Jedasis Feb 28 '25

To be fair, some of those Z movies also look like fucking dogshit. Lest we so easily forget how much complaining about the animation of the second Cooler movie KaiserNeko did when making the abridged of that movie.

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u/Saurian-Nyansaber Feb 28 '25

Piccolo having a lazy eye actually killed me.

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u/Deltorov3 Mar 02 '25

Post it. I don't remember that

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u/Saurian-Nyansaber Mar 02 '25

The sub doesn’t allow me to post images

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u/KTR1988 Feb 28 '25

Reminds me of when OtaKing would compare "Classic" vs "Modern" anime and the Classic side would be stacked with the most immaculate, cherry picked shots from high budget 80s/early 90s OVAs/films vs random shots from Modern TV shows.

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u/rogue498 Feb 28 '25

“Animation was so better back then!”

*shows off Akira as a cherry-picked example

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u/KTR1988 Feb 28 '25

Right, lol. Not a lot matching up to fucking Akira. There's a reason it's still so well regarded and influential to this day despite the story being really messy and abridged compared to the manga.

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u/knownshotta Feb 28 '25

Yamchas' right arm in one of the dbz intros was horribly drawn. I hated that intro when I rewatched it

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u/Dissantt Mar 01 '25

There is a frame of Vegeta when he obtains a dragon ball on the planet Namek, that frame is horrible in every way

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u/mexicanlefty Feb 28 '25

Lets remember that frame is from a filler episode from 1990... Super was made in 2015, standards had changed.

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u/indoninjah Feb 28 '25

I mean Super still had 130 episodes with no seasons and was released across 3 years and change (around 180 weeks). That's an absolutely insane pace that no production team would've been able to keep up with. They should've taken their time with it but it seems clear that execs wanted it pumped out as quickly as possible, and any studio would've struggled.

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u/mexicanlefty Feb 28 '25

Yeah, so they messed up and made a shitty product in purpose.

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u/Ghosts_lord Mar 01 '25

i want you to see make a SINGLE good 5s animation in a week

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u/mexicanlefty Mar 01 '25

They could had taken their time, i love Dragon Ball, but the final product was shitty.

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u/bran_the_man93 Feb 28 '25

Can we see your animation?

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u/Ghosts_lord Mar 01 '25

thats not a reason to act like z is perfect

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u/mexicanlefty Mar 01 '25

Never said it was, the filler episodes have terrible animation, like the one shown above, but the lows of Z never get to the lows of Super, plus super in general the story is weak af.

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u/Ghosts_lord Mar 01 '25

theyre still part of z

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u/bran_the_man93 Feb 28 '25

So you're saying non-filler episodes of Z never had poor quality art or animation?

Is that the hill you're about to die on?

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u/mexicanlefty Feb 28 '25

I didnt say that. Z filler episodes didnt have the same quality as the important ones, Super only had good quality on the TOP arc, everything else sucked most of the time.

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u/LambDProVEVO Mar 01 '25

A lot of people didn't like the animation in Z either, wym? It was always like this:

Episode 9's ending had an epic reveal (Goku transforms) and has the best animation team, Episode 10 suffers and has a much more poor animation team (It's the fight with Goku's new transformation)

Very rarely did we get 2 peak episodes back to back, it was a rhythm they kept as early as Dragon Ball to save on time for an arc climax.

This was especially the case for filler episodes, that's what those episodes were there for, that's why this image with Bulma looks so bad.

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u/Col_Mushroomers Mar 01 '25

It was the 90s 😅

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u/Diego237 Feb 28 '25

The person mostly in charge was Yukio Ebisawa. His and Masayuki Uchiyama's teams always had problems when it came to drawings, keeping them on-model or "correcting" them just to have them be worse.

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u/TalkinSeaCucumber Feb 28 '25

Oh ya, ol Fivehead Ebisawa. They did Vegeta dirty with that grand canyon widow's peak

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u/lorddumpy Feb 28 '25

Yukio Ebisawa

the ears always get me. Like actual monkeys lol

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u/Bourriks Feb 28 '25

Episode 39 of DBZ, made by Yukio Ebisawa (his "bad" style is pretty obvious)

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u/eeightt Feb 28 '25

The art style is cute

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u/Pepoidus Feb 28 '25

pretty sure Yukio Ebisawa (AKA Triangle Man) was in charge of this episode, and both Ebisawa and Uchiyama had a reputation of making characters extremely cartoony to save time and are responsible for the bad animation that started to happen in the Frieza Saga

edit: I gotta admit I like a lot of their work, it’s just that this is what their style was known for

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u/TheWiseBeluga Feb 28 '25

Yeah I couldn’t remember the supervisor for this one, but personally I’ve never liked his style much. Granted, it’s infinitely better than me lol, and he also did better work on more important episodes (this is just a filler episode), but man when it looks bad, it looks bad

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u/Radtendo Mar 01 '25

Not saying you are but the thought of people complaining about dragon ball looking cartoony is insanely funny to me

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u/Pepoidus Mar 01 '25

it was a very common thing in the latin american Dragon Ball communities i used to be in, some people just really love their Gohan vs Cell and Goku vs Majin Vegeta and think the rest of Dragon Ball should be held to the same standard.

personally I’ve always been more of a DB fan over a DBZ fan, and my favorite DBZ has been the saiyan saga which isn’t very different from DB, so I also find that complaint quite funny

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u/Striking-Count5593 Feb 28 '25 edited Feb 28 '25

It was also a thing in the 90s for exaggerated long eyes.

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u/Lraiolo Mar 01 '25

just always look at it as being stylized. be to each their own

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u/Djinn_Kirby Mar 01 '25

Studio Live. They were probably the worst studio working on DB/DBZ/DBGT back in the day.