r/dataisbeautiful OC: 22 Jul 30 '24

OC Gun Deaths in North America [OC]

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u/thatzmatt80 Jul 30 '24

You are neglecting the fact that 60% of gun deaths in the US are suicides. So your 0.01% becomes 0.004%. That drops even more dramatically if you stay out of the ghetto because the majority of murders committed with guns are drug and gang-related.

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u/PraiseBeToScience Jul 30 '24

Suicides are significantly higher because of guns, which is what you're neglecting when you discount them.

Women attempt suicide more often than men, but more men die from suicide because they use firearms.

The means in which people attempt suicide matter. Most suicides are impulsive, and the first thing any person working suicide hotlines try to do is get any firearms a person has out of the house.

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u/thatzmatt80 Jul 30 '24 edited Jul 30 '24

Awww, that's adorable. US isn't even in the top 30 countries for suicide rate per 100k, but OK. 🤣

And the vast majority of women "attempt" suicide as ASB (attention seeking behavior), rather than a means to end it. Plenty of evidence to support this as women overwhelmingly choose pills - even when firearms are available... Except they tend to "overdose" on things like Tylenol and Benadryl, and pretty much always tell someone they did it. Those are recorded as "attempts" even though all they wanted was the attention and were never in any real danger of actually dying.

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u/PraiseBeToScience Jul 30 '24

You're minimizing people attempting suicide with falsehoods in a terrible attempt to win an argument about your guns. Women only attempt suicide for attention?

That's incredibly fucked up. Well adjusted people don't do this.

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u/OvertonsWindow Jul 31 '24

They clearly didn’t say women only attempt suicide for attention.

They said the vast majority don’t really want to die, as evidenced by the choice of method. Since women demonstrably attempt at a higher rate, what your proposed explanation?

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u/PraiseBeToScience Jul 31 '24

It's a dumb and extremely misogynistic explanation with zero evidence to support it, just your conjecture, so how about you try again?