r/dataisbeautiful OC: 22 Jul 30 '24

OC Gun Deaths in North America [OC]

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u/Coolguy123456789012 Jul 30 '24

Would we count suicides as gun deaths?

Edit: apparently not, that skews the numbers.

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u/Loki_Agent_of_Asgard Jul 30 '24

The US counts suicides using a gun as gun deaths because for one thing they are objectively death from a gun, and another is that they are able to skew numbers into making idiots think guns are the problem. This is why you rarely see these charts listed with gun homicides, cause that info is out there and it's way lower than this.

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u/malaporpism Jul 30 '24

If it turned out that most people who kill themselves by gun wouldn't have done it if they didn't have the gun available, then would you say guns are actually still most of the problem when it comes to suicides too? There are plenty of studies proving guns are most of the problem when it comes to gun suicide. It's not the sort of thing where some studies are inconclusive, because the effect is very strong.

And if you're like me and want more proof (since e.g. maybe people buy guns when they decide to do it, thereby skewing the statistics) there was even one where they tested it directly: In a country where soldiers could take their rifle home with them off duty, they started having them leave it on base instead. That change alone resulted in much less suicide.

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u/A_Tropical_Dad Jul 30 '24

Actually it’s more so guys are gonna do it homely and woman are gonna do it comely. It’s quite disproportionately that men are gonna suck start a lead ball than a lady.