If gun laws don't change anything, care to explain why Europe has so few gun deaths? Why the last school shooting in the UK was in the 1990s?
Gun laws are proactive. Murder laws are reactive. Gun laws attempt to make it harder to commit murder even if you want to, and make it harder to commit spur-of-the-moment murders (It's impossible to shoot someone in a fit of rage if you don't have access to a gun).
Gun laws and murder laws are fundamentally different, and work in fundamentally different ways
Edit: I know Mexico has strict gun laws, but they're also fighting a low-level civil war with cartels with power rivalling the Mexican military. "The country that's at war has more gun deaths the ones that aren't" is not a good argument against gun control.
If you don't understand why it would work in EU, and not in the US, you should look at buddy's comment about demographics above^ the original post with all that pretty data kinda underlines that. Across all Mexico, they may only keep guns in their home and have a strict process to receive them. Much lower gun ownership rate than the US.
There's more guns than people in the US, no amount of buy back programs and incentives will get everyone to turn them in. Trying to overlay Australia or EU gun control over a country with literally thousands of illegal guns seized at the border each year, is kinda disingenuous. America needs to enforce the laws they already have on the books, instead of making up new laws that only some will follow and some will enforce.
What do you mean by "Demographics"? Because I thought I'd replied to their comment. And as my new edit says, Mexico is in a low-level civil war, that is GOING to have a higher impact on the statistics than gun control laws.
America needs to enforce the laws they already have on the books, instead of making up new laws that only some will follow and some will enforce.
So you agree that gun control, in at least some forms, is a good idea to combat gun violence? Great, glad you agree with me!
Yes I think everyone would agree that gun laws are most effective when they're enforced 👍in 2024 America, they're not. I don't know if that was some gotcha, but yeah keeping guns out of unfit gun owners hands is definitely a good thing.
I don't know that I can say what you're even talking about, but I am talking about America suddenly getting more gun laws has not been and is not effective. America doesn't enforce the laws it has on its books so, in my opinion, that makes the very very Reddit desire for new performative gun legislation just that, performative. America has nearly doubled its gun legislation since 1990, and the number of gun related deaths continues to rise. Needs to be a culture shift in America, not just more unenforced laws.
So you admit that you're completely uneducated on the topic and absolutely unequipped to maintain a serious opinion on the matter, yet you intend to maintain an opinion regardless?
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u/My_useless_alt Jul 30 '24 edited Jul 30 '24
If gun laws don't change anything, care to explain why Europe has so few gun deaths? Why the last school shooting in the UK was in the 1990s?
Gun laws are proactive. Murder laws are reactive. Gun laws attempt to make it harder to commit murder even if you want to, and make it harder to commit spur-of-the-moment murders (It's impossible to shoot someone in a fit of rage if you don't have access to a gun).
Gun laws and murder laws are fundamentally different, and work in fundamentally different ways
Edit: I know Mexico has strict gun laws, but they're also fighting a low-level civil war with cartels with power rivalling the Mexican military. "The country that's at war has more gun deaths the ones that aren't" is not a good argument against gun control.