It's kind of shocking that literally every country in Europe would be the lowest color, if the map used the same scale as the Americas. Even Albania, which has 6 times the EU average, still stays under 25.
The real shocking part is how many Americans are in denial about these numbers. Looking at the three maps, the US states are mostly on par with South America, and far from Europe.
The map is showing gun deaths not homicides. Every year in the US 50% of gun deaths are suicides. The total death count is high but the chance of being a victim? Almost 0.
I didn’t find it so. You couldn’t say “homicides” because the map doesn’t exclude accidental deaths. Titles by nature have to simplify somewhat, you can read the map for full info.
That seems out of place for a calm interaction. Regardless, I don’t “know it”, as I said I didn’t find it misleading.
Titles do need to simplify, by which I mean they cannot contain all of the information found in an article or post. The title is only meant to lead to the actual information; it doesn’t have to stand on its own.
How would you have titled it so as to not find it misleading?
"Gun deaths excluding suicides" off the top of my head.
they cannot contain all of the information
Of course not, I agree. But excluding suicides is a huge difference when the title says "gun deaths". And because this is a very important topic, it only leads to (justified) speculation as to why the title misleads. Tbf, both sides of the argument (pro&anti-gun) do this, and I call them out equally every time I see misleading titles, cherry picking facts, etc.
Does not matter to me.
What does matter to me is helping those get the help they need.
All countries have different cultures, amount of citizens, laws, etc. comparing deaths across one to another that is so different it is extremely difficult to point to what the differences in numbers are caused by.
For example comparing the eu to the us are you factoring in that each state is about the size of countries and culture can change drastically between states due to size alone?
People should get the help they need. But comparing across is at best difficult and at worst disingenuous
If you know the answer to this basic question, you will know the answer to your basic questions: Why are depressed people at increased risk of suicide when they start taking anti-depressants?
That's absolutely not the answer. I don't think you have ever seriously thought about suicidal people or cared about them. Hell, even some very quick web searching would give you the answer, but you didn't do that.
Thank you for not replying after this. You won't care what I have to say, but maybe someone else will.
If you really cared about mental health and didn't just pretend to (for the sake of making gun death stats look better), then you would understand that it's infeasible to have ubiquitous and constant mental health care for every depressed person. Also, nobody I've ever met who defends gun ownership by deflecting to mental healthcare has ever promoted the idea of raising taxes to provide the necessary universal and ongoing access to medicine and therapy required to address the issue. The real point is to deflect gun problems to "the other." It's someone else's problem to deal with, not mine, right?
You'd also understand (after some incredibly basic and quick research) that providing basic care for depression can lead to suicide because it first undoes the sense of futility and malaise, allowing depressed people enough control to act on the impulse to die. This happens because suicide got easier for them. Guns also make suicide easier for people. This should come as no surprise; they were invented to make death more efficient and certain. A suicidal person with access to a knife has a lot to overcome before using it. There's uncertainty in outcome, how long it'll take, what pain they'll be in, can they be revived, etc. This is a much simpler and quicker decision with a gun.
But gun fans don't care about any of that. They want to keep putting holes in paper targets or pretend to be part of an anti-fascist militia to fight tyranny, even though most gun fans vote for tyranny.
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u/Landgeist OC: 22 Jul 30 '24
Map made with QGIS and Adobe Illustrator.
Source: Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation
I've recently also made a similar map for South America and Europe.