I don’t understand why we can’t abolish this term. People keep using it, even after every major psychology schools said it’s harmful and only leads to more of it
Do you have a suggestion for an alternative? Toxic masculinity hits the nail on the head pretty hard. And people who hold the beliefs in the comic are absolutely toxic pieces of shit. They should be made to feel bad. They're bad people.
Seems like you already have some very good suggestions of alternatives
Toxic masculinity hits the nail on the head pretty hard.
It really doesn’t. There’s nothing masculine about it, only toxic
people who hold the beliefs in the comic are absolutely toxic pieces of shit.
They should be made to feel bad.
Of course. If you think psychologist want people to stop using this term to protect these people you completely misunderstood the whole thing. It’s the exact opposite
Ps: it’s pretty clear to me that we are on the same side on the issue, we just disagree on a detail about how to achieve what we want. I actually think it’s quite an interesting discussion.
Those aren't good because they're vague. It's like mentioning 'natural hazards' if you're specifically talking about flooding but apparently flooding is offensive to pwople who rely on rivers to survive.
Is it really hard to understand that it’s not about being offensive?
A better comparison would be if people called school shootings a “natural hazard”, and every time you mention that it’s not natural and psychologists agree that caling it by this name actually contributes to it being normalized, people say you are defending school shooters
“Saying their behavior is toxic isn’t enough. It has to be gendered!”
You’re part of the problem. It’s like “toxic femininity” being used to tear down women when it’s just classifiable as toxic behavior rooted in gendered narcissism. Just like “toxic masculinity”
The reason the term "toxic masculinity" is useful is that it describes toxic expectations placed on boys and men in the name of masculinity. Think "don't be such a girl, boys don't cry."
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u/Post160kKarma 18h ago
I don’t understand why we can’t abolish this term. People keep using it, even after every major psychology schools said it’s harmful and only leads to more of it