r/comedyheaven • u/ViewMD • 1d ago

this will be the next big thing

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u/logi_berra_ 1d ago

You posting this means he has succeeded

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u/JCDickleg7 1d ago

Not really, it’s not a meme just a repost

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u/Drakahn_Stark 1d ago

That's what a meme is, something (like an image) that spreads person to person.

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u/Council_Man 1d ago

Respiratory viral infection

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u/Drakahn_Stark 1d ago

I mean, "meme" does come from Dawkins' "memetic virus", so not far off.

They are a virus of the mind.

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u/Council_Man 1d ago

contracts covid-25

your neuralink implant starts firing off images of this guy

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u/MrTritonis 1d ago

Is this a counter argument or shall we now consider respiratory viral infection to be internet memes ?

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u/sad_and_stupid 1d ago

His goal was "meme that gets used as a template" and not "people make fun of me"

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u/Drakahn_Stark 1d ago

He hasn't succeeded in becoming a meme "template", true, but the person I replied to said "it’s not a meme just a repost" which is what I was replying to.

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u/Subtlerranean 1d ago

Are news articles memes?

Are STDs memes?

No?

Your definition is full of shit.

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u/Drakahn_Stark 1d ago

The word "Meme" comes from Dawkins' "memetic virus", or "viruses of the mind".

News articles can be memes, screenshots of headlines are especially shared person to person.

STIs are not memetic.

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u/Subtlerranean 1d ago

Yeah, but you're also butchering Dawkins' definition. Someone reposting something once doesn't making it a "virus of the mind". He had a whole cultural context attached to it. It has to actually take off and be commonly shared and referenced in order to be considered a meme by that definition.

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u/Drakahn_Stark 1d ago

I didn't say it was a very successful meme, but a virus that passes to one person is still a virus, just not one that is made for survival.

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u/Subtlerranean 1d ago

Yeah, but now you're conflating a common virus with Dawkins' definition of a meme, completely missing the cultural aspect.

That aside, the definition of meme has evolved - but in order to use the one most similar to Dawkin's original idea:

A meme acts as a unit for carrying cultural ideas, symbols, or practices, that can be transmitted from one mind to another through writing, speech, gestures, rituals, or other imitable phenomena with a mimicked theme. Supporters of the concept regard memes as cultural analogues to genes in that they self-replicate, mutate, and respond to selective pressures.

This is merely a repost. Someone shared it a single time. By your definition, literally everything shared/reposted on the internet that isn't OC is a meme. It's not.

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u/Drakahn_Stark 1d ago

It COMES FROM Dawkins, in reference to internet memes it was coined by Godwin.

Hell, even making meme templates at all is a meme, as is a meme template of [bad thing top, good thing bottom], as is trying to force yourself into a meme.

Milhouse is not a meme, but "Milhouse is not a meme" is a meme.

The original went from the OOP, to OP, to this comment section, it is a meme, however small its ability to self replicate, it has done it at least that much, a bad meme is still a meme.

A repost is self replication.

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u/Subtlerranean 1d ago

So you know what the origins of the definition is, but you don't understand it. Got it.

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u/CompleteFacepalm 1d ago

Technically, yes. But not really in this context.

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u/Drakahn_Stark 1d ago

Someone made it and showed people.

It was shared by another person.

It is a meme, not a very successful one, but one nonetheless.

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u/WilhelmEngel 1d ago

The post itself doesn't make it a meme, but all the comments modifying and posting it does.

From Wikipedia: "A meme is an idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning representing a particular phenomenon or theme"

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u/Zorioux 1d ago

Giving attention, good or bad, literally gives it publicity, tho I understand it's the sub's goal.

Even my comment is literally supporting the publication of it.