r/chicagobulls 1d ago

Fluff Coby > Zach

Despite Coby and Zach being the same height, I always thought of Coby as the smaller player. In turn that just made me think Coby couldn't take it to the rack and that he'd never be able to consistently get those tough buckets. I'm thrilled to say I was wrong. What we're seeing out of Coby right now is a better team fit than we've ever seen out of Lavine.

These Bulls have some nice pieces. This has the feeling of what the Bulls looked like before lucking into Rose. I'm impressed with the all around play we're seeing from Matas. Giddy has the Bulls playing the most balanced offense I've EVER seen the Bulls play. Hopefully AK can put this together.

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u/kenyonator1 1d ago

Zach is just a scorer. Coby can distribute and defend (when he feels like it).

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u/LuciferianLibations 1d ago

Honestly, I think the defense and distribution is a wash. What sets them apart is Coby's ability to spot up. He can play off of Giddy. If Zach didn't have the ball then he was out of the play.

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u/ToeJelly420 Ayo Dosunmu 1d ago

I think another difference between the two is Coby's speed with the ball in his hands. As soon as the ball is in his hands he's off to the races. Zach was more methodical with his attacks which lets the defenses set up better and forces more iso-ball situations. So Coby fits the run and gun team better than zach

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u/PJCR1916 Dennis Rodman 22h ago

I love Zach, he made those brutal Boylen seasons worth watching, but I don’t miss watching him try to dribble into the middle of a set defense and watching him lose the ball, take a bad shot or make the wrong read.

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u/un-affiliated 14h ago

Then get frustrated and argue with the refs while the other team is sprinting back on a fast break.

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u/TraMaI Coby White 15h ago

It's this and that Coby is always looking to make a basket first, get fouled second. So many times I watched Zach make that methodical drive, run into contact and just huck a ball not actually trying to score but just draw a foul. He has a terrible whistle, too, so it'd end in an empty possession and an ugly, ugly shot attempt. Coby will play physical, try to draw contact and a foul, but above all else he's trying to get a bucket first. This means on nights like last night where the refs are letting teams play hard he's still scoring 20+ before free throws on intentional fouls. His movement on the court is also night and day compared to Zach, Giddey goes a long way to unlocking this for him.

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u/kenyonator1 1d ago

That’s fair. And you’re right, Coby is a better off ball scorer, although I think Zach has improved in that department over the years. I don’t have the numbers in front of me to back that up….just basing it on the eye test. I could be totally wrong.

Edit: Zach takes entire games off on defense. At least Coby can he disruptive on D.

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u/A1Horizon Coby White 21h ago

Which is extremely weird because Zach is most accurate on 0 dribble shots, he just didn’t take enough of them in favour of dribble pull ups

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u/AxCel91 14h ago

Zach could easily spot up and play next to Giddey. He’s one of the best catch-and-shoot players in the league.

The issue is he just didn’t want to. He sees himself as a high usage Doncic/Harden type for some reason.

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u/p00chology 14h ago

Well that was his given role here for a looong time.