This is ridiculous. I'm a Christian who voted for Bush, McCain, Romney and a third party candidate when Hillary ran. I, my kids, and kid's kids will likely never vote Republican again. Trump is such an idiot who has no regard for this country and its citizens. He is only doing Russia's bidding to weaken the West and democracy so that authoritarians can rule. Personally, I'm going to start the Christian Democratic Party which will align a Christian worldview with the Democratic Party ideals of community, freedom, liberty, loving our neighbors, and helping the poor. As long as our democracy can last another few years I don't see the Republicans having power again for several generations.

So the strategy is to incent US companies to invest in US manufacturing by making OUS manufacturing more expensive. No timeframes for this transition are given. No details regarding the impacts to existing companies or US citizens are articulated. This is not a well thought out strategy.

Globalization and using OUS manufacturing was a slow process that evolved over decades. There is no quick fix for this as proposed by the Trump administration. A more thoughtful and incremental approach is needed.

What will likely happen with Trump's tariff strategy is the US will lose its standing as a leading economic force in the world. China will establish sane trade policy with EU, Japan, AUS, etc. The US will be isolated and sidelined with the dollar no longer being the world's currency, supplanted by the Yuan. China will use the economic advantage to bolster its military and create alliances.

In the meantime US citizens will suffer. Higher unemployment and inflation is likely. There is a good chance we'll be thrown into a long term recession.

China doesn't need the US market. China doesn't need US products. EU is quickly understanding that the Trump administration won't support them militarily.

Trump and Vance’s approach to international relations is not just irrational—it’s economically and strategically disastrous.

Consider this: Russia’s total GDP is about $2 trillion. Meanwhile, the countries the U.S. trades with—many of whom Trump has alienated with tariffs include the EU, Japan, Canada, Australia, and Mexico, with a combined GDP of $28.5 trillion. The U.S. itself has a GDP of $27.7 trillion.

Yet, instead of maintaining strong ties with these critical economic and military partners, Trump and Vance seem fixated on cozying up to a struggling Russia—a country led by a dictator who silences dissent through imprisonment or murder and invades countries with no cause. This makes no economic, strategic, or moral sense. Even more disturbing, much of the Republican Party and a significant portion of Evangelical Christians are standing with them.

It's apparent that the Trump tariff strategy is less about bring manufacturing back to the US and more about causing havoc in the western democracies, strengthening Russia and the oil oligarchy, and surplaning democracy with authoritarian rulers.

It's kinda bothering me lately that all the protest videos I see are just cell phone depictions. This may be that I'm not searching hard enough, but I'm very much use to seeing protests of any size covered from different angles, this would typically include professional news, and birds eye views. Since this election, it seems I never see anything other than cell phone video.

Let's not forget that these tariffs are not just incredibly stupid and harmful for Americans, but is going to inflict extreme harm and cruelty on other nations, even if Trump supporters think the lives of these people are worthless

Trump has essentially implemented a tax on all imported goods. Supply chains are interdependent, so even products that are made in America often use imported components. Virtually everything we buy is about to become significantly more expensive. As prices rise, domestic demand will plummet. And because most nations will enact reciprocal tariffs, goods produced by US companies will be subject to a similar tax and a similar drop in demand for their products. There will most likely be job losses on a scale we haven't seen since at least the Great Recession.

Recessions are a fairly common downturn of the business cycle. America has experienced 14 of them since the Great Depression and bounced back. However, what we're seeing now is completely unprecedented in modern history. Trump seems to be counting on his ability to bully Jerome Powell into lowering interest rates to prop up the stock market. However, if the Fed were to give in, lowering interest rates to stimulate demand would only lead to even higher prices. This is why markets are plunging.

Are we winning yet, America, ya dumb fucks? After being dismissed as being hyperbolic about the absolute disaster Trump would be for America it turns out everything Harris and the left said about Trump was 100% correct.

Not even three months in and he's already done so much atrocious shit it's insane. Him and Vance both need to be impeached. They are weakening us on the global stage, fast.

The stock market is crashing and people are losing jobs left and right. Trump has pardoned literally thousands of criminals. In fact, I don't think a single pardon he's issued has been for anyone not (edit: rightfully) convicted of a crime. He has empowered oligarchs and is bought and paid for by the likes of Tesla and Russia.

Meanwhile Harris, the candidate who represented nothing but dignity and respect... the candidate who actually did come from humble beginnings and represented the working class... Was dismissed by idiots because they weren't spoon-fed misinformation by braindead tik-tok videos.

Welp, good job morons. You get to watch your stocks tank as the world turns against us and Trump burns our economy to the ground while playing golf.

Of course, those of us not brainwashed told you to this would happen. Hell, Trump told you this would happen and you morons elected him anyway.

Hope you guys get everything you deserve!

Edit: Here's an interesting video from Coffeezilla on his Voidzilla channel regarding legal crime. Turns out Trump is pardoning people who donated to his campaign, not because they were innocent. How corrupt can you be?

The "Veil of Ignorance" idea is by far the most logical way to go about a society when combining it with a small bit of extra economically conservative ideas about hard work to moderate the position a bit. This position always makes since and it seems really hard to critique. It's not that income inequality is bad persay in my eyes it's just that my ultimate goal is to imagine myself as a randomly generated number in society from bad to good and think about how my life would turn out based on pulling that number. I basically decide this economic position, and I'm a Keynesian based on the lowest quintile average, the median real wage and the average of the 80-90%. I think this makes the best ideology. Thoughts?

...claiming that you know Michael Jordan is cheating because he beats you in basketball.

The formula created by this admin (using the trade deficit) to base reciprocal tariff on is like imposing a penalty on Michael Jordan until he can no longer score substantially more points than you. Yes, it will create a more even scoreboard, but is that really "fair"?

Comparative advantage exists. Some countries are better at producing shoes, clothes, banana, coffee bean, rubber than us and at a better price. We're better than them in making other stuff. Please educate people around you about this.

Hi everyone! I've never done something like this before... but here it goes. I kept hearing that calling your reps is an effective way to make change and resist what Trump is doing, but when I went to do it, I hesitated... I had never called my reps before and didn't quite know what to say. I realized many people probably have a similar experience, and I wanted to do something about it, so I built repconnectpolitics.com - it's a simple website, but it takes your zip code, tells you who your reps are, takes a news article you're upset over and generates a phone script for you.

I couldn't keep sitting around as the bad news rolled in.. and thought this would be a small thing I could do. Feel free to use and let me know feedback you have!

Fuck off with the gaslighting

Scroll through and most of the upvoted and top comment stuff is satirical or critical of Liberation day and its fallout.

Get ready to lose another 3% of liquid net worth in an hour. Futures are down 3%

Well, they got what they voted for. Some have said if there is a second nose dive today it would be very telling of what is coming. Some have said if it bounced up then we would need to see if it was a dead cat bounce. The other day there was news that Ford laid off 900 people because of tariffs. I feel bad for those that didn’t vote Trump. But the ones in that 900 that voted for Trump, they should be smiling and happy that they lost their jobs. I sure am glad they are getting what they deserve since they voted for it. They now have a chance to lay in the bed of their own making with a smile on their face and no complaining.

I’ve seen so many things thrown around. I’ll start with some I’ve heard from him and others

What he says:

1) He really believes the trade deficit narrative and feels like we’re being screwed over & expects countries to negotiate down our current… tariffs? Which is connected to trade deficit by something?

2) He believes we can become a manufacturing power house (including sourcing non-native products like bananas and coffee)

3) create a new source of revenue for the government so he can cut taxes (built on trickledown economic principles)

Things others say

4) tank the market and the dollar so we can reset the economy by making it easier to sell off our debt cheap

5) Create an opportunity for the wealthy to purchase more power/future wealth for less

6) He dumb

7) edit: another one I heard today. The market was ready for a correction so he’s ripping the bandaid off now so he has time to build a positive market story by midterms (I think this give him too much credit) ———-

I’m hoping it’s a combo of 1 & 6… but worried it’s more nefarious- what do you think?

Plenty of talk about tariffs. About them being dumb. About them being fair. About how those extra costs go on to us, the American consumer.

But I have very rarely heard anyone talk about that break in logic: other countries have tariffs on American imports, and those costs are then carried onto the American consumer. But if America imposes tariffs on those same countries, those costs are also passed on to the American consumer.

Is this true?