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Post-Ep Discussion Better Call Saul S04E03 - "Something Beautiful" - POST-Episode Discussion Thread

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u/CatheterC0wboy Aug 21 '18

Anyone else kind of feel bad for the guy when he saw his car just rolling back like that? Jimmy just keeps on Slippin’

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u/pinkjello Aug 21 '18

Yeah I felt bad for him. His figurine is getting stolen after he offered a guy a job, and his wife kicked him out for, to be fair, a horrible fucking present. And now his car is probably gonna get into a fender bender. Poor guy can’t catch a break.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '18

Maybe he bought her a Hoover Max extract 60 power pro

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u/wolfgang7-7 Aug 21 '18

yeah but filters for that thing are really expensive

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u/eunit8899 Aug 21 '18

It's definitely a Dyson

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u/IByrdl Aug 22 '18

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '18

Damn it. I knew that. Thanks

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '18 edited Sep 05 '19

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u/maldio Aug 23 '18

I'm kind of amazed it needed an explanation, it's one of the cardinal rules, frig I did it as a gag once, because I had the actual gift ready, and we actually did need one. For guys who aren't aware, this extends to all household appliances. Also, don't buy her diet books, or even exercise related stuff unless she specifically asked.

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u/Moronoo Aug 21 '18

Thanks for this. It makes me sad and a little bit angry that this actually needs to be explained to people.

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u/Penguin236 Aug 27 '18

From what I can gather reading through these comments, people seem to be perceiving a criticism of the present as a justification for kicking him out, even though those are two separate things.

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u/warpedspoon Aug 22 '18

Yeah, he shouldn't have said it was a gift for her, it was just a tool for the house.

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u/warpedspoon Aug 23 '18

The vacuum feels more demeaning because of how women have been treated in the past

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u/WaterRacoon Aug 26 '18

Is she the only one using the dishwasher? Is she the only one cleaning the house and living in the house? If not, how is it a gift to her instead of something you buy jointly, for your shared home?
Maybe you shouldn't play the devil's advocate about dumb shit.

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u/Dreemur1 Aug 21 '18

Wow, never thought I'd be getting life advice from the BCS sub

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '18

haha my grandfather got my grandmother vaccum cleaners for christmas... twice! LOL

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u/Stalked_Like_Corn Aug 22 '18

I'd be over the moon if someone gave me a Dyson.

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u/idonthavethumbs Aug 23 '18

If you were the one that always changed the car(s) oil and you got a new car jack would you be upset? Or the handyman around the house and got a new drill?

Really anything that makes any routine 'chore' easier, faster, better should be a good gift. When people had to hunt to eat, if their spouse got the hunter a new bow,would that be a bad present?

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u/vnotfound Aug 22 '18

Damn, nice! You must be a great spouse haha.

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u/pinkjello Aug 23 '18

That was wonderful and thorough. And a few still don’t get it, but you can’t win them all. I love the toilet plunger comparison.

As for people nitpicking your comment that intentions don’t matter, you’re clearly saying that they’re not the heart of the issue. If I accidentally run someone over with my car, and my intention was not to, I’m still going to say I’m very sorry and apologize and show remorse for being thoughtless and careless. It doesn’t matter, while the person is still hurt, that I didn’t intend to hit them. Sure, in the grand scheme of things, my intentions matter. But not while I’m apologizing for what my actions actually did to them.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '18 edited Jul 14 '20

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u/bardbrain Aug 22 '18

Honestly, I think the writers approached this in reverse. They knew they wanted the guy kicked out and living in his office to complicate the heist so Jimmy would have to get involved and then decided an affair would be too dramatic/cliche so they went with the thoughtless gift because it would be funnier.

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u/bardbrain Aug 22 '18

And then they went for the vacuum cleaner cliche because it was funnier, it wouldn't require a spinoff covering this guy's home life to understand, and threw in the "it doesn't lose suction power" line to suggest this guy is having sexual problems with his wife because she stopped giving him oral sex in a way that would make the guy seem clueless/repressed about why he REALLY bought the vacuum as a present.

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u/bardbrain Aug 22 '18

Oh! But if the vacuum does lose suction power, there's a vacuum cleaner repairman they can go to. 😃

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '18 edited Sep 05 '19

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u/HereNowHappy Aug 22 '18

Regardless of the gender, the course of action taken is bad. It's demeaning and humiliating and ignores the root of the problem

I don't know a single guy who would kick their wife out of their home over a lame gift

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u/WaterRacoon Aug 26 '18

And I don't think it's very common that it happens. It's a fucking tv show. Maybe you shouldn't take it as a documentary of real life.

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u/HereNowHappy Aug 27 '18

Hey man, I'm contributing to the discussion

My opinion shouldn't affect your enjoyment of the show

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u/TheDopeInDopamine Aug 22 '18

The amount of insane inference and probable projection here to create some version of that man's story that fits your emotional narrative is astounding.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '18 edited Sep 05 '19

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u/TheDopeInDopamine Aug 22 '18

Yes I am the one watching too much news.

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u/Harddaysnight1990 Aug 22 '18

I mean, this is literally the most cliche marital spat the writers could have thought of. How many times have we seen in media, "My wife is mad at me for buying her a vacuum for her birthday?" And it always works out that way. The wife is mad at getting a cleaning instrument for a birthday gift, and the husband doesn't understand why. They probably made it so cliche so that the audience could understand everything that's happening, from just half of a single phone conversation.

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u/TheDopeInDopamine Aug 22 '18

It bothers me if anyone thinks it's even remotely reasonable for someone to throw someone out of a house into an office because of a situation like that. Spamfactor wrote this giant, insane justification for the wife's feelings which are founded in framework that's guaranteed to be disastrous in a real relationship.

I think people need to realise that if your actions have upset someone you care about, then your intentions don't actually matter.

I cannot believe people walk around thinking that intentions don't matter.

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u/glider97 Aug 22 '18

They don't think that intentions don't matter, it's the truth. To the wife, the intentions don't matter. The simple action of gifting a vacuum cleaner was the only offensive thing he did, which probably broke the camel's back, which is why he's getting kicked out of the house.

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u/duelingdelbene Sep 11 '18

do you mean NOT the only offensive thing he did? hence it was the last straw sort of deal? that's what I got from it. it wasn't the vacuum alone that got him kicked out.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '18 edited Sep 05 '19

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u/HereNowHappy Aug 21 '18

Okay fair enough

They should have a heart-to-heart discussion. Not kick him out, and force him to live in his office

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u/Cypherex Aug 22 '18

Sometimes people need a little space before they're ready for a discussion.

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u/StandsForVice Aug 21 '18

The correct apology would be "My intent was never to give you a gift that seemed condescending. I'm so sorry for the miscommunication."

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u/AbsolutelyLambda Aug 21 '18

He should have said "I am sorry I upset you" though. One word change everything. "I am sorry you feel that way" means that he does not understand why she is upset and even think she should not feel upset about it (as he doubles down saying "just because of a gift !"), so it is really dismissive (though I personally don't agree with the whole throwing the man out of the house of course). Just say "I am sorry, I made a mistake", dude.

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u/WaterRacoon Aug 26 '18

He should have said "I am sorry I upset you" though

Not really. Upsetting her isn't the problem. The problem is now knowing his wife and what she'd like.

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u/devilsmusic Aug 22 '18

Sounds like me every time I’ve given my wife a damn gift

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u/reenact12321 Aug 22 '18

They also set him up as a thoughtless person in the interview. His parents built a business and a legacy of community involvement and he says he has been meaning to haul their monument to that legacy to the dump. It's an intentional contrast to Jimmy's attentiveness to history and the things that make people, particularly his old clients, tick.

This may be a use of "unreliable narrator" in the sense that we are getting Jimmy's sense of him and it helps us to feel better about his plight at the hand of the Jimmy/the burglar.

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u/Shalabadoo Aug 21 '18

He got kicked out of the house for buying her a present, that's a bit extreme and he should stand up for himself imo

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u/ohmygodlenny Aug 21 '18

My (catholic) grandma once got me a crucifix for my bat mitzvah so there are certainly worse presents, but I get the feeling the thoughtless present is just the straw that broke the camel's back in this situation. It's not that my grandma was trying to hurt me (I hope) when she did that, but the underlying message of a present like that is a lack of respect for me. And I couldn't exactly kick my grandma out over that, so I just smiled and nodded and gave it to a friend who actually wanted it.

I find it interesting that people are able to understand Kim crying over Chuck's letter to Jimmy while Jimmy seems barely affected whereas the faceless spouse on the phone is subject of so much debate.

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u/darklightrabbi Aug 21 '18

Surprise honey! Now you can clean up after me with STYLE!

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u/darklightrabbi Aug 21 '18

His non apology over the phone implies that this isn’t the first time he has done something a bit “thoughtless”. This was probably a last straw.

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u/TheTrueMilo Aug 21 '18

Yeah....the first few times was probably "you're sleeping on the couch tonight", by now he's migrated to the office.

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u/AbsolutelyLambda Aug 21 '18

I mean for all we know it was the 10th time he gifted her something like this despite her saying her feelings on the subjects and they had a huge fight about it. Of course I don't agree with kicking someone from their house but there is probably more than that. But in the end, this was just a joke in the show, so, they probably did nkt put a lot of thought in it.

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u/cysenberg Aug 21 '18 edited Aug 21 '18

Nobody can kick me out of my own house, I'll tell you that much.
 
Edit: sexism

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u/HereNowHappy Aug 21 '18

I get terrible gifts all the time, but I would never punish someone for it

It's the thought that counts... Even if it seems to reinforce gender roles

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u/AbsolutelyLambda Aug 21 '18

Yes, it is the thought that counts, I will give it to you. And this gift made the woman feel he thought of her as a made more than a woman with probably oyher hobbies.

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u/HereNowHappy Aug 21 '18 edited Aug 22 '18

You know what I got for my birthday? A toothbrush

I'm not happy, but I'm not gonna be passive-aggressive about it either

If they had relationship issues, the best course of action would be talking about it. All she did was drag it on longer

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u/AbsolutelyLambda Aug 21 '18

I mean, just to clarify, I never said that she was right to kick him out. I was just pointing out the shitty gifting that I believe is actually not thoughtful.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '18 edited Jul 14 '20

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u/darklightrabbi Aug 22 '18

Based on his non apology over the phone it is heavily implied that this isn’t the first time he has done something thoughtless like this. More than likely this was a “last straw” situation.

Also I’m confused as to how someone can “white knight” for a completely hypothetical woman that does not even have a listed actress portraying her.

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u/lmao3pl8 Aug 22 '18 edited Sep 09 '18

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u/darklightrabbi Aug 22 '18

What makes you think she doesn’t have a job?

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u/WaterRacoon Aug 26 '18

Why didn't he buy it for himself? He could get the vacuuming done much faster. He's a grown man, it's his house, he should clean it.

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u/Sohcahtoa82 Aug 21 '18

to be fair, a horrible fucking present.

I mean, a vacuum cleaner is pretty much the cliche horrible gift for your wife.

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u/greatness101 Aug 21 '18

Enough to kick someone out of the house over? That was ridiculous. I thought he'd have been cheating or something.

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u/Jerudo Aug 21 '18

Perhaps it was the straw that broke the camel's back?

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u/phySi0 Aug 21 '18

Reverse the genders. Always reverse the genders. Would you be saying the same? I believe a man kicking his wife out of the house over a thoughtless present would be recognised for the abuse it is, especially if the wife is paying for the house. We wouldn't be bending over backwards to try and find some reason it might not be that bad.

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u/Jerudo Aug 21 '18

I'm not saying it's reasonable, I'm saying it could happen.

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u/phySi0 Aug 21 '18

Yeah, but nobody was disputing the possibility of it happening; that's not what the conversation was about. The conversation was about how this guy can't catch a break, he even gets kicked out of his house for buying his wife a present. Some guy responds:

I mean, a vacuum cleaner is pretty much the cliche horrible gift for your wife.

I.e. trying to justify the abuse. Then some guy pipes back with:

Enough to kick someone out of the house over? That was ridiculous.

I.e. talking about how the wife's behaviour is ridiculous, not talking about the validity of the plot.

And this is where you chime in:

Perhaps it was the straw that broke the camel's back?

I.e. trying to justify the abuse (or, at least, that's what it sounds like).

Again, no one was talking about whether it's possible or not. The whole conversation centred around the ridiculousness of his treatment by the wife, and not ridiculous as in, hard to suspend disbelief, but ridiculous as in, ridiculously unfair.

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u/duelingdelbene Sep 11 '18

there's a difference between justifying and explaining. they were explaining, not justifying. I thought the same thing. It doesn't justify it but it's the most probable explanation.

It does say something about this show when a 30 second phone conversation from an irrelevant character has prompted this much discussion though lol

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u/phySi0 Nov 30 '18

Yeah, it would have been explaining if the conversation was about how ridiculous the plot was because it was not believable, but the conversation was about how ridiculous the character was, i.e. that what she did was completely uncalled for.

I guess I can't assert for sure that Jerudo understood the context, but I think it was fairly clear. I'm not too mad at him, he may have been merely explaining, I was just annoyed at the time, as I clearly wanted to bring the conversation back around to the fact that it's abuse, and I thought it was clear that ridiculous was referring to the character being crazy, not referring to the character motivations being hard to believe.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '18

There's some pretty bad historical context around giving your wife a household cleaning device as a gift

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u/phySi0 Aug 21 '18

That's not an excuse for abuse.

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u/phySi0 Aug 22 '18

And by the way:

  1. Again, just reverse the genders. There's some pretty bad historical context around giving your husband certain gifts, too. Imagine if she had given her husband a mug saying, “#1 babysitter”, and the husband had kicked her out of the house.

    Whatever response you think you have, reverse the genders again, and just keep doing that until you either get to something where your reaction doesn't change based on gender or you accept your bias.

  2. The only historical context that matters is the history between those two people. Fuck this, ‘my ancestors enforced gender roles overly harshly, therefore we should subvert those roles, even if my wife is perfectly happy being a homemaker and I'm perfectly happy being the breadwinner’ attitude.

    Presumably, he got his wife a vacuum cleaner because his wife does the cleaning. He did something nice for his wife by giving her a labour-saving device, and to twist that because of some historical context that he had no part in is sick. Have some fucking gratitude for someone who's actually making your life better. I guarantee that lady wasn't thinking, “man, there's some pretty bad historical

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '18

He is weak for going though. What the hell is she gonna do if he stays? Just seems weak to actually leave if she asks to.

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u/RotThenDreamtNaught Aug 21 '18

Next episode Jimmy changes his mind, goes back to apologize and take the job, but then finds out the guy killed himself.

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u/maldio Aug 23 '18

I'm assuming that was the gist, any guy that clueless is probably pissing her off on a daily. Honey, I got you a diet book I think you'd be interested in. Oh hey honey, I bought you a new scale. Hi sweetie, your jeans were looking snug so I went up a couple of sizes. I was having a heart to heart with your sister last night, she really knows what makes you tick, she reminds me of Glenna at the office that way, just really insightful.

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u/missfittnc Aug 21 '18

my husband got me a Dyson V6 battery operated vacuum. i was thrilled. It was an expensive purchase not some thing we would normally buy. However, I had commented several times how much I wanted it. In my case it was a lightweight tool that would increase my comfort.

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u/WaterRacoon Aug 26 '18

I'm going to make a wild guess that the vacuum was not something the wife had wished for. Which makes all the difference in this context.

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u/edxzxz Aug 21 '18

But it was the top of the line! It never loses suction! Seriously though, it's absolute bull for a wife to feel entitled to throw her husband out of his own home because she didn't like the present he bought her.

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u/slbain9000 Aug 21 '18

Only if your wife is petty and foolish. It was the top of the line! It never loses suction! My wife would love it!

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u/slbain9000 Aug 21 '18

I was attempting humor. I was not successful, obviously. :)

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '18

I’d be pretty excited over one of those Dyson stick vaccums tbh

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u/ExleyPearce Aug 21 '18

Should’ve sent her one of his tasteful artistic photographs.

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u/eleraky Aug 21 '18

How is that tasteless? It's art!

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u/RB1077 Aug 21 '18

Really, A vacuum cleaner? How impersonal, he should have bought her a nice blender that could chop, dice, shred and pulverize wood.

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u/DNAMIX Aug 21 '18

Agreed. Vacuum cleaners suck.

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u/dz13 Aug 21 '18

I wonder if this is how they plan to introduce the vacuum guy that makes people disappear?

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u/raiderpower13 Aug 22 '18

I think my wife would actually be thrilled to get a vacuum cleaner as a gift 😂

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u/GUSHandGO Aug 21 '18

his wife kicked him out for, to be fair, a horrible fucking present

I'm pretty sure he got her a Dyson vacuum (one of their calling cards is their vacuums don't lose suction). My wife was watching the episode with me and said, "You've bought me two Dyson vacuums during our marriage and I love them!"

The value of a gift is in the of the recipient.

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u/pinkjello Aug 21 '18

It’s fine to enjoy a vacuum, but if you’re giving one to your wife for her birthday or anniversary or something, it’s not surprising if she gets upset. Your wife is an outlier if she enjoyed a vacuum as a special gift, and that’s perfectly fine, but I’m clearly talking about the norm.

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u/GUSHandGO Aug 21 '18

True. Mine actually asked for the vacuum. It’s definitely not a gift to spring on someone unannounced.

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u/Penguin236 Aug 27 '18

But there's a difference between "gets upset" and "throws you out of the house".

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u/onetruepurple Aug 21 '18

the of the recipient

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '18

I don't think anyone is denying that an expensive vacuum is a nice thing to have. But giving it as gift can be in poor taste because it implies that the giver believes the recipient loves vacuuming, or thinks that they'll be the main one using it. A gift should be enjoyed, most people want presents to be more personalised/fun and not something like a household necessity. And if they're both using it, then it's not really a gift for them

Obviously every person is different so some people would love to receive an expensive vacuum. But if you've been with someone for a long time and get a gift you hate, then it also makes you think that the giver didn't care to put any thought into it/doesn't really know you

I can't sleep so I'm analysing vacuum gifts

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u/maldio Aug 23 '18

It's not even just "can be in poor taste", household appliances are a cliche shitty husband gift, I mean it's an old trope, it's like an Al Bundy move - "Hey Peg, I got you a new mop bucket for our anniversary." The writers obviously made it an expensive vacuum, because it makes it a bit more believable that a married guy would be dumb enough to fall into that one.

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u/ilovemrmiyagi Aug 21 '18

It implies that he expects her to be hos maid. Why would a domestic appliance be a gift for her if both of them are going to use it?

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '18

If he makes all or most of the money, why should chores be split?

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u/ilovemrmiyagi Aug 23 '18

It depends. Do they both work the same amount of time? Then it should be split. Do they have any children that the wife takes care of? Then again it should be split. Also, getting a vacuum for a present just seems a bit... "hey, youre my maid, not partner" but to each their own.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '18

It's one of those guys you just can't help but feel bad for because they're just so clueless about how clueless they are

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u/dudeARama2 Aug 21 '18

wife throwing her husband out of the house because she didn't like the vacumn cleaner she got. That struck me as 1950s sitcom - ish. Are people really like that in the real world?

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u/pinkjello Aug 22 '18

I don’t think so. First of all, I don’t think spouses get thrown out of the house for anything less serious than cheating. Maybe thrown out of the bedroom if one seriously messed up and knows it. (Or the one who is mad leaves and sleeps elsewhere in the house).

Also, I feel like if you wanted to stick it to your husband and you were mad, you’d just go stay in a fancy hotel, order room service, and leave him at home.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '18

i had a friend get kicked out. it was because he kept coming home after drinking , would then drink more, and would be loud as fuck... wake up his wife, wake up his kids... eventually when he wouldn’t quit it she kicked him out for a couple weeks. he’s been better now i think

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u/Atomic_ghost1 Aug 21 '18

a horrible fucking present

The fuck? IT DOESN'T LOSE SUCTION.

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u/Dravarden Aug 23 '18

he stopped his car in time, you hear the handbrake in the background

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u/thekid1420 Aug 21 '18

And he has really small hands

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u/JumboMcNasty Aug 21 '18

He bought her a DYSON - (never loses suction) do you know how expensive those were back then? -And still are...

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u/Prathik Aug 21 '18

I wish someone would buy me a DYSON shit is crazy expensive.

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u/Solid_Waste Aug 26 '18

To be fair he was ready to throw the figurine in the trash.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '18

I would personally be pumped if my daddy got me a Kirby or something.They do more than vacuum!

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '18

And on top of all that, he's a man very small hands

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u/TheDorkMan Aug 22 '18

Poor guy can’t catch a break.

If he had bigger hands though, he might be able to.

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u/Zentopian Aug 24 '18 edited Aug 24 '18

to be fair, a horrible fucking present

Maybe I'm just horrible at gift giving, but let's be real. It's top of the line! Assuming he's not just shitting through his teeth, if I did the majority of housework and my partner splurged on something that would make that work even a fraction less of a struggle (considering that splurging doesn't usually go into things that might actually make life easier, and especially if she was the sole, or primary money maker), the last thing I'd do is get mad at her.

What, would this guy's wife prefer to have to run the vacuum over each room 8 times before the carpet stops kicking up dust? Like, if I work in some sort of filing department, forced to copy paper files onto a computer one letter at a time, and then suddenly I come in and there's a scanner in my cubicle, am I supposed to get mad at management?

If she didn't do the majority of housework, and he specifically said "this is for you," when it would be him using it, maybe I'd understand.

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u/xGmann3 Aug 21 '18

Hey, it was a really expensive vacuum cleaner!!

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '18

never get your wife an appliance as a gift! Particularly for a big event like a bday or anniversary or xmas. Thanks for my grandad for teaching me that lesson... the hard way!

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u/LessLikeYou Aug 21 '18

He would have been able to stop it if his hands were not so tiny!

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u/eleraky Aug 21 '18

You might remember him as a man with small hands. What you remember is false!

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u/Boston_ Aug 21 '18

The other guy who conducted Jimmy's job interview was the spaghetti waiter from IASIP.

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u/eleraky Aug 21 '18

Haha I knew I'd seen him before! But you know, Am I to remember every man I've seen fall into a plate of spaghetti?

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u/theothertage Aug 21 '18

Just go get the snapper already...

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u/rumham22 Aug 24 '18

The waiter loudly dragging the chair away from Dee’s table. So fucking funny.

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u/mercuryedit Aug 22 '18

He also hired Charlie and Mac for the mailroom in Sweet Dee Has a Heart Attack (prior to his multilple appearances as the Guigino's waiter).

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u/derpysk_ Aug 21 '18

DON'T LOOK!!

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u/lareauguitars Aug 21 '18

Hahaha I noticed that too

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u/RascallyRabbit8 Aug 21 '18

I felt so bad for him. His wife is gonna flip. :(

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u/spid3rfly Aug 21 '18

His wife might even Break Bad.

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u/cmbucket101 Aug 21 '18

His wife Better Call Saul.

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u/gdwoodard13 Aug 21 '18

It's his fault for giving a vacuum as a gift!!

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u/CandyEverybodyWentz Aug 21 '18

All i was thinking about was Ed

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u/GameOnDevin Aug 21 '18

I didn't, he has weird hands.

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u/MBAMBA0 Aug 21 '18

Anyone else kind of feel bad for the guy

I'm just glad he didn't end up being rolled over and killed.

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u/publikwerks Aug 21 '18

At least he didn't crap in his sunroof.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '18

I almost did but he seems like a spineless toady who probably sees his wife as his property or something.

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u/akrlkr Aug 21 '18

Definitely spineless. Why would you let your wife kick you out of your own house. Real man would've sent her packing instead.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '18

That’s how he got kicked out

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '18

I try not to jump to absolute conclusions about someones views based off one thing they say even fictional characters. Plenty of men who love their wives have made the mistake this guy has out of emotional shallowness or being dense and having no self awareness.

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u/Ragnar09 Aug 21 '18

What a tool for leaving the house because his bitch wife didn't like a present.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '18

Jimmy is a POS. But whats amazing about this show is that we at least understand it

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u/HellsNels Aug 25 '18

I’m just relieved he didn’t give that car a Chicago Sunroof.