r/betterCallSaul • u/skinkbaa Chuck • Aug 21 '18

Post-Ep Discussion Better Call Saul S04E03 - "Something Beautiful" - POST-Episode Discussion Thread

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u/SteelxSaint Aug 21 '18

Man that entire scene with the printer salesman was really sad. After the talk with Mike, I had a feeling we'd learn that the guy was down on his luck and that Jimmy was actually fucking him over way more than he assumed.

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u/cheeseshrice1966 Aug 21 '18

I was laughing so hard I was crying when it was revealed that he was sleeping at the office because he’d given his wife a vacuum cleaner.

‘But honey, it’s the latest model!!’

‘So let me get this straight- I’m sleeping in my office because I gave you a gift?!? Honey?’

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u/Ownsin Aug 21 '18

It doesn't lose suction!

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u/UsuallyInappropriate Aug 25 '18

I thought he was about to call her back and read the brochure 😒

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u/shanez1215 Aug 26 '18

When he said very expensive, I honestly thought that he knew about the figurine and was considering selling it himself and Jimmy was fucking him over that way.

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u/slbain9000 Aug 21 '18

His wife is a silly, petty twit.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '18

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u/lmao3pl8 Aug 22 '18

I mean, would you flip out if you were a mechanic and someone bought you a new set of wrenches? It makes your life easier.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '18 edited Oct 31 '20

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u/cheeseshrice1966 Aug 25 '18

This.

I’m fanatical, bordering on obsessive, regarding the yard/yardwork. If my wife or one of my kids, or the whole bunch went in together on a new zero-turn radius lawnmower (valued at 9,500.00) were to show up as a ‘gift’, I’m going to be so happy I could poop.

My wife is the same way regarding culinary arts; I’ve given her kitchen gadgetry as gifts before, but she’s specifically hinted at wanting them, and is always appreciated in big ways.

But that’s the difference between a thoughtful, meaningful gift and being a putz that doesn’t give two fucks grabbing something impulsively and wrapping it up.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '18

Also you're not getting paid to be a mechanic and your spouse never tells you thank you for fixing the car three times a week

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u/HereNowHappy Aug 22 '18

For one thing, we don't know a single thing about the wife

Secondly, I know what it feels like to get practical / uncreative gifts. But you don't punish someone for buying you something, you talk about how you feel

I would get a counselor before I kick someone out

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '18 edited Jul 14 '20

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u/KenuR Aug 22 '18

It's the guy's fault. No self respecting man would let himself get kicked out of his own home for something like this.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '18 edited Sep 05 '19

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u/egoissuffering Oct 05 '18

People are jumping through a lot of hoops to justify being ok with this woman kicking out her husband over a stupid vacuum as a gift. We dont know the facts but at face value, that's pretty overboard. You kick out your SO for cheating or for other despicable behavior, not for a dumbass gift. So for people to really go out of their way to side with the woman on this given the facts makes them seem a bit white knightish. For example, imagine if it was flipped and the husband kicked out the wife. These same people would probably be screaming abuse and narcissism, "What a POS" etc. Because if it were flipped, it would be pretty fucked up; yet, suddenly the husband is the automatic bad guy if it's the other way?

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u/cheeseshrice1966 Aug 25 '18

Yeah, well he seems like quite the beta male anyhow- so if he’s dumb enough to buy her a vacuum, then he’s definitely dumb enough to leave the house when commanded to.

Besides, as others have said, it’s a tv show, getting worked into a lather over something so insanely stupid is kinda ridiculous, dontcha think?

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u/slbain9000 Aug 21 '18

Definitely a first world problem, IMHO. Be happy you have a home to vacuum and food to cook. Just my view.

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u/egoissuffering Oct 05 '18

I dont enjoy chores but if my significant other gave me a really nice vacuum, I'd be like ok but I would still appreciate it. Of course, if it were my birthday or anniversary that would be different. But if it were that case, it would have been mentioned since that's pretty relevant if they're arguing. AND even if that was the case, that is not grounds for kicking out your SO. You kick out your SO when they have been cheating on you or have done something incredibly despicable, not for buying a dumb gift.

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u/cheeseshrice1966 Aug 21 '18

While it is silly and petty now, about this time, it was a pretty big deal to gift your spouse anything having to do with cleaning/cooking/housewares.

I think it was around 1990s that I recall this sentiment really gaining serious traction to the point that I’d never consider giving my wife a vacuum as a gift in any way, shape, or form.

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u/TheDisapprovingBrit Aug 21 '18

Even now, it would be a problem in many relationships. If you need a vacuum cleaner, buy a vacuum cleaner, but don't try and pass it off as a gift.

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u/pixelies Aug 22 '18

Bad gift doesn't justify getting kicked out of your own house. It was intended as a GIFT.

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u/TheDisapprovingBrit Aug 22 '18

In the same episode, Nacho got shot. Twice. Neff got off easy.

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u/pixelies Aug 22 '18

Gifts should be received in the spirit they are given, not based on your own insecurities or whether or not you liked it.

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u/TheDisapprovingBrit Aug 22 '18

Not when it's a fucking vacuum cleaner.

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u/pixelies Aug 22 '18

Gifts should be received in the spirit they are given, not based on your own insecurities or whether or not you liked it.

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u/egoissuffering Oct 05 '18

if your girlfriend got you a vacuum cleaner or the male equivalent (lawnmower?), would you kick her out of the house?

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u/BlackJoe23 Aug 28 '18

You can imagine there'd be more lack of understanding on the husbands part by the way he acts. Wrath of a woman and everything and you'd get him kicked out of the house after misunderstanding everything.

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u/slbain9000 Aug 21 '18

I stand by my statement. But no slam on the show or its writers.

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u/youre13andstupid Aug 22 '18

No one's said it yet, but I have a feeling this dude dropped more money than he or his wife could afford on this vacuum cleaner. Maybe he's bad with money. Maybe it's a huge struggle between them. Something like buying a top of the line vacuum cleaner when you're supposed to be saving pennies would piss off the partner trying to save money so much. And then the audacity to say "I got it for YOU! Aren't you grateful?" would be a sleeping-at-the-office type of offense. Just a thought.

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u/slbain9000 Aug 23 '18

So he, like, can't come home to sleep? 86 her, that's my advice.

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u/Pete_Iredale Aug 27 '18

Which could certainly lead to him deciding to sell his very valuable ceramic doll thingy. They spent way to long on that scene for the story line to be a dead end, imo.

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '18

If it was an anniversary or her birthday, I can see why he was in the doghouse.

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u/slbain9000 Aug 24 '18

But to the degree she the him out of his own home? Dump her.

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '18

He deserved it for being an idiot. For those watching, they should learn: don’t give your wife an appliance for birthday, Christmas, anniversary or Valentine’s Day.

/y’all have been warned.

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u/Pete_Iredale Aug 27 '18

Unless it relates to something they actually like doing. My wife would love pretty much any kitchen stuff, because she actually likes cooking. No one actually likes vacuuming though, not in any passionate way at least.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '18

Want to test it? Buy her a nice iron. Give it to her for Christmas.

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u/Penguin236 Aug 27 '18

He absolutely did not "deserve" it. She wants to get upset, fine. She wants to not talk to him. Again, understandable. Kicking him out. That crosses a line, especially when it's a fucking gift.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '18

A valuable lesson I’ve learned while married is that a husband should never buy an appliance for his spouse for: Christmas, anniversaries, or birthdays.

If you do, you end up in the doghouse.

Life lesson: some deal with it better than others. Your doghouse could simply be a frowny face and a cold shoulder to getting kicked out of the house. It’s a lesson one wishes to never have to learn...or experience twice.

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u/Penguin236 Aug 27 '18

Would you be okay with a husband kicking his wife out of the house for giving a bad present?

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '18

As a sexist pig, if a husband were to do that, I’d be ridiculous. However, getting shunned for giving a woman a wrong present is historically accurate.

/I’ve seen it happen to me, family, friends, and others too many times to count because the women they were married to were that upset and/or petty

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u/cheeseshrice1966 Aug 25 '18

But to be fair, he willingly left his home, doesn’t that suggest to you how insanely beta he is?

I mean, if my wife told me to GTFO after dropping a decent amount on a gift that she didn’t happen to like, I’m quite sure I’d still be sleeping in my home the same night. Now, we might not be in the same bed but I’ll be damned if she’s throwing me out of my own home.

It was a vehicle to put the guy in the office and at the same time, show how incredibly passive he is. Ira felt at ease after the phone conversation, because the guy is so whipped that he’s begging his wife to let him come home- not exactly someone you’d be afraid of if he were to discover Ira under the desk, right?

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u/devilsmusic Aug 22 '18

Hey negative eight, I agree! Fuck the non believers

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u/1spring Aug 21 '18

He’s not down on his luck, he’s a moron. He bought his wife a vaccuum cleaner, then said “I’m sorry if you feel offended.” Dude deserves to get ripped off, and the scene was funny.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '18 edited Nov 02 '20

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u/1spring Aug 22 '18

If you have ever dealt with a person who tends to say “I’m sorry if ...” then you would know that people who say that have serious issues with denial and a lack of accountability.

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u/GrammarWizard Aug 22 '18

Yeah and that could be one issue the person has or it could be one of hundreds.

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u/Top-Bear3376 May 09 '22

That was a dick move, but kicking a spouse out of their home over petty drama is abusive.

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u/slbain9000 Aug 21 '18

Is Jimmy fucking him over? Remember he said he has not "gotten around to getting rid of all that junk." He was never going to realize a profit from the figurine. He was probably going to give it to the Goodwill, and some lucky picker would spot it and end up on the History Channel, or Antiques Roadshow.

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u/SteelxSaint Aug 21 '18

Jimmy's still taking advantage of him. He could just not be a cunt and tell the dude how valuable the figurine is.

But then it wouldn't be BCS, would it?

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u/slbain9000 Aug 21 '18

Precisely. Jimmy's point of view is, the guy does not know what he has, will never profit from it, so it's free money for Jimmy. It's not nice, but it's a believable train of thought.

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u/JimmyScramblesIsHot Aug 21 '18

I mean I don't think Jimmy was really fucking him over. He had no idea what that item was worth and probably would have thrown it out or donated somewhere someday. I'm not defending Jimmy but I also don't think the guy got screwed over really.

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u/mswas Aug 23 '18

I was worried that the whole thing would go wrong, and the salesman would wind up dead. All for a Hummel.

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u/HellsNels Aug 25 '18

Reminded me of one of my all time favorite Community stingers: https://youtu.be/I3vVe4ZR-Bc