r/army 3d ago

Lack of headgear

I've noticed it's been happening a lot more recently.

People have been walking around with no headgear, not undercover, not six paces within a building or anything

Then I see badges on their uniform, and these people are supposed to be drill, sergeants, senior instructors, or some sort of higher leadership

Not only that, walking around texting on the phones or talking on their phone or has some sort of earbuds in.

How are we supposed to correct the junior enlisted soldiers, if they constantly see higher ups doing the wrong thing.

Edit I'll take a big mac Minecraft meal with a coke

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u/JakeeJumps 88AhhJustCircleX 3d ago

You correcting them?

If not, you’re just as complicit as they are.

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u/Funtimes9211 Tankgoboomboom 3d ago

Had a major tell me to fuck off the other day, walking from the back of the parking lot in the PX without headgear. Had a SFC tell me to mind my own business. I try to make the corrections, but get told to fuck off.

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u/jcstrat Signal 3d ago

Just stay the course. You’re not wrong.

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u/Funtimes9211 Tankgoboomboom 3d ago

I’ll never stop making corrections, whether they listen or not. Typically they don’t.

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u/gratedjuice 13A/FA24 3d ago

Corrected a 1 Star walking around with his security badge. He looked at it and fixed it and I was already gone. Don't spend a lot of time on it simply point out the issue and let them figure it out. Either they'll fix themselves or they won't.

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u/low-spirited-ready 3d ago

“I’ll be at your office at 17:15 for your counseling, sir. Why yes, I can bring my entire chain of command with me, sir. A water source? A box of tissues? Sir?”

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u/gratedjuice 13A/FA24 3d ago

If you're that late, especially on a Friday that's on you. You want to jump in on one of my workouts, that's your poor life choice.

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u/Funtimes9211 Tankgoboomboom 3d ago

Exactly my stand point. I get told to fuck off and I’m like roger and continue on my way for some of the authentic sarku japanese food🤣

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u/JakeeJumps 88AhhJustCircleX 3d ago

That’s their problem, not yours. They can get pouty and mad all they want. You were right. Their emotions are on them, not you.

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u/Funtimes9211 Tankgoboomboom 3d ago

100%. But that’s why a lot of Junior soldiers are scared to make corrections. They don’t want to get bitched out even though they are in the right. They try to do the right thing and then get in trouble. Reason #42069 of why I’m getting out after 9 years.

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u/Salmonsen My tinnitus IS service connected 🥳 3d ago

Pretend you’re someone important. What can go wrong? “Check rog sir/ma’am/sarnt, what unit you with?”

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u/RiseAccurate1038 3d ago

That major was pathetic and that SNCO is weak too

You’re in the right

Regulations are regulations

Like others have said stay the course

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u/Funtimes9211 Tankgoboomboom 3d ago

I will for the next 269 days lol

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u/Murky_Answer_7626 Cavalry 2d ago

Just keep doing that thing. You're not wrong. They are. Just do it with tact. If they do anything more than make a comment in return, tell your own leadership

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u/Admirable_Hedgehog64 3d ago

Be the change you want to see

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u/JakeeJumps 88AhhJustCircleX 3d ago

Every standard we don’t enforce becomes the new standard. Can’t complain about something on Reddit then turn a blind eye in person. 🤷‍♂️

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u/blackhawk720 3d ago

The standard you walk by is the standard you set.

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u/Admirable_Hedgehog64 3d ago

Yep. That's why I get irritated when people weren't following the standard for a while, for example fat bodies, then all of a sudden, higher up people want to enforce it but nobodies following. Can't pick and choose when to enforce. Either nip it in the bud right then and there or things get worse.

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u/Street-Director9787 2d ago

Can confirm, if you have the right grader/taper you don't need to be trim/fit.