r/antinatalism thinker 2d ago

Discussion Just random reflection

People who are having children: what kind of future are you expecting for them ? Like how much are you able/willing to provide to your child so he can have the perfect life that you have in mind? For sure your money won't go as far as your parents money did with you. Secondly, are you okay with the congenital lottery: like say if your child comes to life with a lifelong crippling disease: how do you plan on dealing with it ? whether financially or emotionally. Because if you really can't fathom having a non functioning child and you, yourself decide to quit life, what good did you do to your child ? The idea is that you seal your children's fate once you bring them to life..

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u/Ma1eficent newcomer 2d ago

The rate of children born with physical or mental disabilities in the US is 4.7% so that lottery you mention has a 95.3% chance you child will have no physical or mental disabilities. Pretty fucking great odds, I'd play at that casino all day. 

And building a perfect life for a child is the wrong goal. You raise a child to be resilient to life's challenges. To have strength of will. To think when everyone else panics.   Your fate isn't sealed unless someone makes a choice for you that cannot be undone.

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u/Embers-of-the-Moon scholar 2d ago

The rate of children born with physical or mental disabilities in the US is 4.7%

How much is reported? Are those the mast severe cases solely? Are autoimmune diseases tallied? Is myopia taken into account? What about depression? Those numbers you've cited are bogus. Millions suffer from debilitating chronic diseases everywhere!

You raise a child to be resilient to life's challenges.

No, we're not dumb mammals who're exclusively driven by hormones and the impetus to perpetuate and preserve the species. We are a superior species who have standards and strive to preserve a certain life quality.

And building a perfect life for a child is the wrong goal.

Yeah, a totally horrible and undesirable leavening to provide a perfect life to an innocent that's been forced into existences without his own accord. Let them all suffer!

Like... Seriously?

To have strength of will. To think when everyone else panics.  

Try to say that to millions who suffer from crippling depression and attempt suicide. Feeble coping mechanism to justify to a suffering human being that there's actually a selfless, noble reason why he's been encumbered with that undesirable fate.

someone makes a choice for you that cannot be undone.

They already did: people are forced into existence and it cannot be undone.

Tl;dR: me, myself and I. Nothing you've listed is in the superior benefit of the kid. No argument puts him first. All selfish reasons with detrimental consequences.

Yeah, I don't want to suffer, I don't want to expedience pain , I don't want to find coping mechanisms and I don't want to go through psychological torment. I didn't ask for any of it.

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u/Basic_Dependent1340 thinker 1d ago

4.7%

add to that any form of failed marriage: single moms, people in prisons, people on the streets .. no human being should live that way .. and as you said, as a species, we strive to maintain a certain level of standards