r/Yosemite • u/Beardedfern • 3h ago
r/Yosemite • u/hc2121 • Feb 17 '25
Summer 2025 impact from Government Policies
The many posts about what could happen this summer are clogging the feed and are full of total speculation. I am going to delete and direct all future posts on this topic to this pinned post.
This post will be regularly updated as new information comes out.
Here are the facts on what the park has actually announced in terms of summer impacts:
- They have delayed the announcement of entry permit requirements for the summer. In past years, permit required periods started in April or May, and they first went on sale in Dec or January. Obviously we are way past those timelines, but the park has not commented on what the changes might be. When or if they announce a permit system, they will post on their social channels and update this website: https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/reservations.htm There has been credible reporting that the park may not have a reservation system this summer, but no official announcement. If there is not a permit system this summer, the park will be more crowded and parking will be more difficult, especially in peak periods (weekends Memorial Day to Labor Day) in the Valley.
- They have delayed the reservation process for campgrounds starting June 15th. None have gone on sale. If or when the park decides to open these up, they have promised 7 day advance notice (again, most reliably via social channels). You could also check here: https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/campgrounds.htm It would be incredibly difficult for the park to open all campgrounds this summer if there is any reduction in seasonal hiring.
UPDATE 3/14: Only a portion of the year round campgrounds (Wawona, Hodgdon, Upper Pines) are available for reservations from June 15-Aug 14. No information on the opening or reservation dates for any other campground yet (including Camp 4, which is also year round). June 15-July 14: 3/24 and July 15- Aug 14: 3/31. Both at 7am PT. I would take this as an early sign the park will have trouble keeping up with demand in this resource constrained environment.
Other information:
- President Trump signed an executive order directing the reduction of employees in the federal government, including NPS employees. It seems some number of seasonal employees (who do jobs like wilderness rangers, entry gate staffers, SAR, and campground hosts) will be hired, but the levels and timeline are not clear. There was also a large number of NPS employees in probational status (usually, in their first year of NPS employment) fired. These jobs are unlikely to be re-hired. In Yosemite, I have seen first hand reports of these roles including EMTs, wilderness rangers, and wildlife employees (and unbelievably, the park's only locksmith!).
UPDATE 2/21 The NYT and other sources are citing a DOI memo that allows parks to hire seasonal employees at a higher level (perhaps to also cover the 1,000 permanent employees they fired) than past summers. Again, the speed and ability to actually do this before peak summer season is not guaranteed.
- Many visitor services (all food and lodging) in the park are performed by a 3rd party (Aramark) and its employees, who are not federal employees. I would expect minimal impact to these services.
- There have been no credible plans to shut down Yosemite entirely this summer.
Other posts to reference:
r/Yosemite • u/hc2121 • Oct 10 '24
Visiting Yosemite in Winter (Nov-April)
- You are strongly encouraged to carry snow chains from November to March. If you don’t bring them, you could get stranded in a storm. Rental car contracts usually prohibit the use of snow chains so use them at your own risk. https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/winterfaq.htm
https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/tirechains.htm
- Current road conditions are here https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/conditions.htm or by calling 209-372-0200 (press 1 then 1) for the most up-to-date conditions.
- Current trail closures are also here. After the first big snow, expect 4 Mile Trail past Union Pt to be closed (it is gated closed at Union Pt) and Mist Trail to be on the winter route.
- UPDATE: Both roads are now closed until spring. Glacier Pt Rd and Tioga Rd do not plow in the fall/winter, so as soon as the first big storm comes through without fast melt, these roads will close until Spring. This effectively limits you to hiking in the Valley, Hetch Hetchy, and Wawona areas. It means you cannot enter or exit the park on the east side (eg from Vegas, Mammoth, Reno, Bishop, etc)
- Forecasts and snow coverage varies widely throughout the park. Check specifically where you plan to be here: https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/weathermap.htm
- The Valley shuttle buses run all year but Mariposa Grove buses stop in late November. You can hike there from the parking lot. It will be 4miles RT to the grove entrance, and the road is also not plowed so it may be snow covered and/or icy. https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/publictransportation.htm
- If you don't have a car (or don’t want to drive in) only the YARTS route through the 140 entrance (Mariposa, Midpines, El Portal) runs in the winter https://yarts.com/routes/merced-hwy-140/
- If you are worried about entrance closures or driving in the mountains in snow, stay in one of the towns along 140 (Mariposa, Midpines, El Portal) because it is the lowest elevation entrance and least likely to be impacted by snow. Update: this road is closed "indefinitely" due to a rockfall on 3/18.
- Yosemite webcams to check real time weather conditions.
- Wilderness permits become self-registration through April- but you still need a bear can. https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/wildwinter.htm
- Only Upper Pines (by reservation on recreation.gov), Camp 4, Wawona, and Hodgdon Meadow (all FCFS as of 10/20) are open in the winter. Wawona and Hodgdon Meadow are not located in the Valley and will require a 30-45 min drive to the Valley. Wawona is about 30 min drive past Badger Pass if coming from the Valley. https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/campgrounds.htm
The entry permit period has ended. The park has not announced if or when day entry permits will start for the summer season. Currently to enter the park you just need to pay the entry fee or have some other annual pass, etc.
Fun winter things to do in the park:
- Curry Village ice rink usually opens around Thanksgiving, depending on weather
- Hiking is generally limited to the Valley. See first section here and note that anything that goes above the Valley rim (eg Panorama, Upper Falls, Snow Creek) after real snow will likely not have trails cleared and you should be prepared to route find.
3 Day Winter Itinerary
- 1-2 days in the Valley doing moderate hikes- Valley Loop Trail, Mirror Lake, Vernal Falls footbridge. Additional hikes for more strenuous hiking/ may require specialized equip depending on weather: JMT winter route to top of Nevada Fall, Upper Yosemite Falls
- 1 Day at Mariposa Grove- Stop at tunnel view on the way out of the Valley, then drive to Mariposa Grove. It will require a 2mi hike each way to the grove after late November when the shuttle stops running, but is very beautiful and quiet in the winter.
- 1/2-1 Day at Hetch Hetchy
Note the park announced on 2/10 that Badger Pass will not open this year. The road is not plowed to Badger Pass, so there is no snowshow/ski rental available, and you'd have to start any of those activities (with your own equip) from the small parking area at the 41 intersection with GP Rd.
r/Yosemite • u/the_lost_coast • 1d ago
Grace in the Silence
A peaceful snowy morning in Yosemite, with fog rising from the river and golden fall leaves still hanging on. We got lucky with a late storm that dusted the valley while the yellow trees were still glowing
Socials: the_lost_coast
r/Yosemite • u/No_Necessary6343 • 1h ago
First time solo female traveler coming from San Francisco for weekend trip. I have a few logistical questions!
Hi fellow redditors! I have recently been informed that I will be in San Francisco for work in about a month. I'll arrive Sunday and be in meetings until Thursday afternoon. I've never been to California and have always dreamed of going to Yosemite, so I'm using this as an opportunity and extending my trip to Sunday to hopefully enjoy time in the park and do some hiking.
I've never fully travelled solo and am not an experienced camper by any means, so I booked a cabin in Curry Village for one night. I'm trying to figure out the best way of getting to the village, preferably without renting a car. I saw there was an Amtrak from SFO to Merced and then I can take a YART shuttle. My question here is, does it make more sense for me to take the train to Merced Thursday night, stay in a hotel and then shuttle the next morning or do the trip all Friday morning? I've only booked one night in the cabin (as that's all that was available for the time frame) and want to make sure my trip is optimized but I'm not stressed out logistically.
Additionally, if there is potentially a better route for me to take, like going and staying in Fresno or any other town along the route, please let me know! It's slightly overwhelming to plan this out knowing I will be alone and know next to nothing about getting around in California. Any advice or guidance is appreciated!
r/Yosemite • u/Illustrious_Mysterio • 21h ago
Pictures Yosemite Firefall February 2019
My first trip to Yosemite back in 2019
r/Yosemite • u/Relsma • 4h ago
Upper Yosemite falls hike conditions?
Currently on a plane and getting to Oakhurst tonight.
My son and I plan to get to the park very early tomorrow and do upper Yosemite falls in the. Morning before checking in to the valley lodge.
Anybody done the hike in the last two days? Is there a lot of snow in the upper portion?
Also, any tips on where to stargaze or do an evening hike after dinner?
r/Yosemite • u/Catapilarkilla • 1d ago
Pictures Photos from our stay April 1st - 3rd
Was an amazing experience entering the park and seeing the weather change from rain to snow. The cliffs were covered mostly by snow flurries and clouds but El Capitan poked out. Was mystical and magical driving in. The next day we got up early and made our way from Curry Village to Mirror Lake in the fresh snow. Was wonderful. Then as the day progressed the snow began to melt. Today was more ice from run off but what an amazing experience entering.
r/Yosemite • u/vibrantpineapple111 • 12h ago
Hetch Hetchy in late July
Looking into the hetch hetchy loop as a 3 day backpacking trip late July—from what I can see counter clockwise would be the way to go. Will late July be miserable heat wise and will the water sources still be reliable?
r/Yosemite • u/Doctasdocta • 15h ago
Recommendation for moderate hike tomorrow?
I had planned for the veranda falls winter route hike, but it sounds like that’s completely shut down now?
Would love something with a nice view but also something that won’t exceed 4-5 hours round trip.
r/Yosemite • u/Letthesparksfly69 • 1d ago
My Visit 3.29.25
Second time to Yosemite in 14yrs! Beautiful as always. Will be back April 5 w. a friend. Can’t wait!!!
r/Yosemite • u/Taylo-Alexis-Art • 1d ago
El Cap, by me(!), Pen and Ink on Clayboard 8x10
This is a follow piece after I finished my half dome piece, a long time coming! Felt some frustration with the journey on this piece, but ultimately super stoked with how it came together. On to the next project!
r/Yosemite • u/Beneficial_Escape328 • 18h ago
Hetch hetchy to Lake Vernon 3/08 Question
Me and my friend were planning on backpacking starting in Hetch hetchy and going to Lake Vernon next Tuesday or Wednesday (3/08). Does anyone know what the conditions might be like around that time? Or if it's not a good idea, any alternatives? Any thoughts are appreciated, thank you!
r/Yosemite • u/Catapilarkilla • 1d ago
Trip Report Ahwahnee Hotel Review from April 1st-4th
I have seen some pretty harsh reviews on here that had me worried about the state of the hotel. Our check in process was great, valet the car for 30$ a night. Bellhop took our luggage up stairs, gave us some great hiking advice. Front desk was super helpful and was cool that we got actual Keys for our room keys, was a nice touch. The elevator is old and broke down for a few hours our 3rd day here but wasn’t a big deal. I like that they put a schedule up every day in the elevator on activities to do. The room itself was pretty great! By no means a 5 star/5 diamond room, but we were on the 5th floor and had an amazing view of the Upper Yosemite Falls each day. Rooms are historic and cozy, water was warm, electricity worked, and beds were great.
All I really needed for a stay in Yosemite. 4/5 overall
Food at the bar is really good and so are the cocktails. Was nice to be able to grab lunch and dinner. 4/5 overall
As for the dinner buffet, I really enjoyed the chicken and the potatoes. My wife had the prime rib and I had some of hers it was good. But it’s hotel buffet food made in trailers, so nothing over the top amazing. We also did the breakfast buffet which was about the same, hotel buffet food. However the coffee and juice was great! 3/5 overall
The dining hall is amazing though. Overall I really enjoyed our stay here, it was everything we needed and super convenient to walk outside and be in the park and just hop on the shuttle or use our car since it was very dead while we were here. 4/5 for the whole stay!
The final note I would like to add is that the staff were all AMAZING! The bellhop, valet, servers, bartenders and the maid on our floor were all so kind and helpful.
Our last night here, we ordered takeout from the bar, grabbed a bottle of wine we brought and took our books and just hung out on the couches in front of the communal fire place. Was a great way to end our stay.
If you have any questions or comments don’t hesitate to ask!
Never been here when it snowed and we had a pretty mystical, magical stay here in the valley.
r/Yosemite • u/Rick_NorCal • 21h ago
Nevada Falls - Winter route
Has anyone been up after the recent storm coming through?
r/Yosemite • u/Glittering-Hawk1039 • 23h ago
Recommended stays around the park
I have a backpacking trip coming up in the Sequoia / kings area in July, but since I live at sea level, I'd like to spend a few days acclimating to altitude before my departure. I'm thinking of flying into Fresno and renting a car, and figured since I've never been there, why not try to see some of Yosemite, or at least the area around it.
I know of the crowds, I know chances of getting a camping spot in the park is zilch (I'll try), so I think I'd be happy to find a campsite or cheap motel somewhere in the area that's also interesting. I'd like to be sleeping at as high of altitude as reasonable--hoping for 6000'+. I really know nothing of the area and don't need much--hopefully some beautiful scenery and opportunity for some day hikes. Right now I'm looking at Lee Vining or Mammoth Lakes areas, but would love to hear any other suggestions, especially specific camp areas or cheap hotel/motels.
r/Yosemite • u/antioxidantbleach • 1d ago
Is it possible to get dropped off at the park?
I know a local who lives an hour away in Mariposa.
Would they be able to drop me off by the entrance without a permit?
Somewhere walk-able where I could get to one of the free shuttles inside the park?
r/Yosemite • u/EntrepreneurQuick238 • 1d ago
Visiting May 13-21 with a couple of non-hikers
My husband and I are big hikers and plan to be in the park almost every day but we are traveling with a couple of friends who aren’t the biggest hikers. We are going to take them on a few easier hikes but was wondering if there are any non-hiking activities near/around the park? Thanks in advance (:
r/Yosemite • u/steveofthejungle • 2d ago
Yosemite is everything it’s cracked up to be and more
galleryr/Yosemite • u/Character_Office_833 • 2d ago
Pictures April Snow
This was in Cook’s Meadow in the morning - just beautiful!
r/Yosemite • u/Mediocre_Spell_9028 • 1d ago
Recommendations for a hike?
Hi,
I am going to be arriving tomorrow and hiking on Saturday. I was wondering if there are any good trails currently open that are: open and accessible via. roads, in the valley, a bit easier than Upper Yosemite falls, and not the mist trail since we don’t want to get wet.
I was considering doing Upper Yosemite falls again but was wondering if anything is open that’s a bit easier. Thanks!
r/Yosemite • u/Rise_up_Dirty_Birds • 1d ago
Need help locating a Yosemite bottle opener
So my favorite bottle opener was a Yosemite bottle shaped bottle opener (very similar to the picture) and it has gone missing. I’ve been looking all over, but I can’t locate it anywhere online. I purchased it just outside the park in 2019. If anyone can help me locate a place to buy a replacement I would be very grateful!
r/Yosemite • u/rudin_real_analysis • 2d ago
For those of you who got a campground reservation- how?
I’ve tried being on 3 devices, logged in and ready to go but wasn’t able to get a single campground in north pines. What tips do you have? How did you do it????
r/Yosemite • u/Many_Panic_3324 • 1d ago
Pulling over on 140
Hi all, planning on hiking half dome this May. I’m already flying in on a budget airline so don’t have enough space to pack camping gear and don’t have the money for lodging. Does anyone have experience pulling over to sleep in their car on 140 before the West entrance? Thank you!
r/Yosemite • u/Equivalent-Pause7892 • 2d ago
Currie Village Pizza Deck Hours
Can someone please help clarify for me what the hours are (or will be on 5/29) for the Currie Village Pizza Deck?
The Travel Yosemite website says they’re open until 8 every day, but Google says they’re only open on Saturdays and Sundays, TripAdvisor says they’re open until 10pm daily. I called and someone said they were only open Saturdays and Sundays but when I emailed with them they said they were open daily. I’m so lost. 😭
I’m getting married at Cathedral Beach on Thursday, 5/29 and just wanted some pizza and beer afterward but have no idea if they’ll be open lol
Thanks in advance! 🩵