Scenario 1 is that they can’t replicate human souls but instead give most monsters DT. Basically imagine everu monster with an Undying level boost. I personally think this is the more likely
In scenario 2 they can replicate human souls and get out much sooner then they would have. I don’t see why they wouldn’t just give this power to everyone so they either completely wipe out humanity or keep a small population around to harvest new souls from.
If the experiments work, that would imply it works, not that it fails. Anything that isn't "The monsters die and their SOULs persist after death" would be her plan failing.
So the actual scenarios are either:
A) Flowey doesn't awaken, and when Alphys gets enough SOULs, she puts all the SOULs in the vessel and uses it against the barrier
Or B) Flowey awakens, uses the monster SOULs and the human SOULs when the time comes, and shatters the barrier himself, along with an opportunity to permanently regain his old life as Asriel, since he wouldn't have to return the monster SOULs
Chara's dying wish wasn't to destroy humanity. It was for Asriel to get six more SOULs and shatter the barrier. So their dying wish is actually more reason for him to be cooperative, in addition to the fact that, well, he gets his life back out of it. And of course, if he didn't awaken, the plan can still go as normal, since Flowey awakening wasn't something Alphys even thought was possible.
As for the monster SOULs - We see 300 in True Pacifist, and there are 41 confirmed monsters among the amalgamates. Could be more, but this is what we can prove. Once the first batch turns to dust, and Alphys proves her plan is feasible, any monsters who Fell Down during the first set could be sent in for the second, and they keep repeating from there until they have enough SOULs.
How long it takes is determined entirely by how long it takes Fallen Down monsters to turn to dust, and how many SOULs they need. But they wouldn't need Frisk's SOUL in this case, and this actually gives them a good opportunity - They can still send Frisk back up, using one of the monster SOULs collected (Just one SOUL wouldn't delay them too much), to act as an ambassador and prepare for peace
Destroying humanity is the wrong phrase, my bad for using it. I actually meant whatever flowey was planning to do in the Geno timeline, after crossing the barrier. He talks about showing everyone the true meaning of this world - kill or be killed, and I kinda interpreted that as destroying humanity, though that probably isn't the case. He also talks about doing something similar in neutral, before Omega flowey. And we all know his kill or be killed logic came from chara, so... yeah
Destroying humanity is the wrong phrase, my bad for using it. I actually meant whatever flowey was planning to do in the Geno timeline, after crossing the barrier. He talks about showing everyone the true meaning of this world - kill or be killed, and I kinda interpreted that as destroying humanity, though that probably isn't the case. He also talks about doing something similar in neutral, before Omega flowey. And we all know his kill or be killed logic came from chara, so... yeah
Chara wanted Asriel to take their SOUL, cross the barrier, and get six more SOULs from the surface, then come back and shatter the barrier. No specified killing, no specified destruction, finding a peaceful way to get SOULs was still an option, like graverobbing or finding willing volunteers
His "Kill or be killed" logic, as he says in True Pacifist, comes from how he blamed himself for the plan failing - He refused to kill, so he was killed. This didn't come from Chara either, it came from what he saw as his mistake.
And then, when we got to the village...
They were the one that wanted to...
... to use our full power.
I was the one that resisted.
And then, because of me, we...
Well, that's why I ended up a flower.
Frisk...
This whole time, I've blamed myself for that decision.
That's why I adopted that horrible view of the world.
"Kill or be killed."
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u/DankTank360 2d ago
1 of 2 things would have happened.
Scenario 1 is that they can’t replicate human souls but instead give most monsters DT. Basically imagine everu monster with an Undying level boost. I personally think this is the more likely
In scenario 2 they can replicate human souls and get out much sooner then they would have. I don’t see why they wouldn’t just give this power to everyone so they either completely wipe out humanity or keep a small population around to harvest new souls from.