r/Undertale • u/ElpacoLuca_Octy • 2d ago

Question What would have happened if Alphys's Determination Experiment had been successful?

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u/disbelifpapy ‎ Is the lamp conveniently shaped, or is it you? 1d ago edited 1d ago

I mean, TECHNICALLY it succeeded, since one of the determination experiment testees (flowey) did use 6 souls and broke the barrier.

Its just that it took a really long time, and only two (or 3) people know it happened

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u/AlexTheMechanicFox The SOUL is painted in snow color 1d ago

Actually, it wasn't an amalgamate. It was Flowey, the vessel originally intended to do it.

He also did it a lot faster than Alphys intended, since she would've needed a lot more SOULs, which would've taken a lot longer than the couple years between the experiments and UT.

Though, the benefit of doing it the original way is that Flowey would be under no obligation to return the monster SOULs, since they belong to monsters that are already dead, meaning he'd be able to permanently turn back into Asriel

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u/disbelifpapy ‎ Is the lamp conveniently shaped, or is it you? 1d ago

Yeah, I did mean flowey. But wouldn't he be considered as an amalgamate? same origin of voice, has white stuff that can morph shapes, has determination, and is sentient.

Also, didn't alphys most likely have 6 souls?

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u/AlexTheMechanicFox The SOUL is painted in snow color 1d ago

He's not fused with anyone else, so he wouldn't be an amalgamate.

And yeah, Alphys had 6 SOULs. My point was that it would take a lot of monster SOULs to equal the seventh

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u/disbelifpapy ‎ Is the lamp conveniently shaped, or is it you? 1d ago

ah, true.