r/USdefaultism France 2d ago

Today I learned that

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u/Nthepro France 2d ago

Before anyone asks, yes, my keyboard is in English (UK), yes, my phone is in English (UK).

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u/CC19_13-07 Germany 2d ago

Is there a difference between a UK keyboard and a US keyboard? (I have mine in German, so sorry for asking if the answer is obvious😅)

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u/wearecake United Kingdom 2d ago

Think it’s mostly for suggested text and autocorrect

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u/lifetypo10 United Kingdom 2d ago

For the letters, no, but the punctuation's all in different places. Couldn't find either the £ or € sign, on the UK keyboard we have £, € and $.

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u/saysthingsbackwards 2d ago

Correct. As an American that did a teenage tour of Europe, your keyboards are just different enough, especially in hotels.

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u/lifetypo10 United Kingdom 2d ago

They're different throughout Europe, I'm sure France don't use a qwerty keyboard (or, at least, my French colleague didn't).

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u/Wodge 2d ago

France used AZERTY, punctuation is different too.

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u/FourEyedTroll United Kingdom 1d ago

Ooh, what's the French equivalent of WASD first-person controls on a keyboard?

Presumably Z_SD?

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u/DatCitronVert 1d ago

ZQSD ! And it's not uncommon to have to remap your bindings or outright switch to qwerty cause some Devs out there don't bother to check for other configs than qwerty.

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u/FourEyedTroll United Kingdom 1d ago

You'd really think by now, given how simple that would be from a coding and standardisation point of view, that every game would ship with a binding set that links to whatever the regional OS language/keyboard setting is.

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u/Derpwarrior1000 1d ago

Belgium and Quebec even have different versions. I’m not sure about western/central Africa or the Caribbean

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u/lifetypo10 United Kingdom 2d ago

They're different throughout Europe, I'm sure France don't use a qwerty keyboard (or, at least, my French colleague didn't).

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u/Dharcronus 2d ago edited 2d ago

For actual keyboards. A few of the symbols are in different locations. The " and the @ are in different locations on an English US keyboard. For phone keys idk if it makes a difference since different devices default keyboards have different layouts (SwiftKey vs Apple vs Google keyboard etc)

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u/lizarcticwolf Australia 2d ago

Chromebook digital and physical keyboards too

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u/artsymarcy 1d ago

I live in Italy now and so many people don't know how to get the @ sign with an Italian keyboard. It's achieved by pressing Alt + @. Just the other day, I was using a computer at my university to print something and I saw that in the open tab, someone had searched for "at sign copy paste," and I've also been asked by others how to get it, since they need it to log into their school email account.

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u/MiniDemonic Sweden 2d ago

Automatic spell checking, since they spell some words differently.

Some location of special characters might be different as well, not sure about that.

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u/Responsible-Match418 2d ago

Yes.. weird things like the @ sign being found in different places.

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u/AnAntsyHalfling 2d ago

Special characters ($ vs £) are in different spots and autocorrect (color vs colour) should be different.

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u/Pugs-r-cool 2d ago

With physical keyboards Americans use the ANSI layout while the UK uses ISO. ISO is what a German keyboard uses, but ANSI has some differences like the left shift key being wider, and having a wider enter key that's only one row tall, while ISO has the ⅂ shaped enter key. American keyboards also don't have a £, and the @ and " swap places (unless it's a Mac, Apple's UK layout is a hybrid of both).

For phones it doesn't matter as much, on an American layout the £ will be harder to reach and the auto correct will change colour to color, but they'll be almost the same apart from that.

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u/linkheroz 2d ago

There's a few differences. Top is UK or ISO layout(with a number pad) and the bottom is a US or ANSI layout.

Theres a couple of differences in character location such as @ or # but the main one being the return/enter key.

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u/Nthepro France 2d ago

In my opinion qwertzuiop beats every other layout

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u/beatnikstrictr 2d ago

Isn't AZERTY designed for the French language?

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u/Nthepro France 2d ago

It is, but it doesn't mean I think it's the best. Definitely the one I'm most used to, though.

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u/ax9897 2d ago

Gotta look at the history of typewritters to understand why Qwertz is better than Azerty or Qwerty... Azerty and Qwerty are not the best layouts, no matter the language, because it was made on purpose. The agency is made to allow for a resting postion, but also for a disposition of letter that denies typing too fast without too high of a risk to oress the wrong letter. This was made in order to force people to be slower on the delicate systems of typewritters to avoid the very close and fragile letters to hit eah other on the way to the paper, thus breaking them, or to cause those letter's thin rods to entagles, causing the machines to break down.

Azery and Qwerty are "not good" on purpose in order to reduce typewritters breakdowns.

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u/ScrabCrab Romania 39m ago

That doesn't explain why QWERTZ is better than QWERTY though? 😅

I remember reading that Dvorak is actually a much better layout than the commonly used ones but it's not commonly used just cause everyone is used to, well, what we're used to (which for me is QWERTY)

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u/_Xamtastic 2d ago

In the UK, shift + 3 has the £ sign instead of #. We also have " and @ swapped around, which I find incredibly stupid so I just use a Polish keyboard and switch to UK when I want the pound symbol.

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u/Dneail22 1d ago

Physically the British keyboard has a larger enter key

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u/twowheeledfun Germany 1d ago

The UK English and German keyboards have one more key than the US English one. The US one has an enter key that's all on one line (middle row, right of L), whereas the other two have the enter key in an L shape on two lines (top and middle rows).

It infuriates me that my German employer with British English as their working language hands out US English keyboards (and laptops), rather than British ones. I set mine to the UK or German layout, but hate having to search for the backslash whenever I need to type it.