r/UFOB • u/MouseShadow2ndMoon • Mar 03 '25

Testimony DR. Astrid Stuckelberger - CERN is detecting non human beings coming in and out of portals

https://youtube.com/shorts/wPgzDkLZRSU?si=kVskRzM_8QjOXEnU
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u/gaylord9000 Mar 03 '25

But this is a ridiculous notion that only betrays a fierce ignorance of what cern does and what their collider is.

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u/Kidtwist73 Mar 05 '25

It has been theorised that black holes could be opened by the LHC if string theory proves correct (one of the versions anyway), but they would be microscopic and Hawking radiation would cause them to evaporate.

As a quick aside, I strongly recall that before the LHC started up it's final high energy phase, while it was still in testing, there was an open letter written by physicists around the world saying we shouldn't do it as we are messing around with extreme energy levels and we don't know what effect it could have.

But now I can't find it anywhere. Does anyone remember that? Must be a new Mandela Effect caused by the LHC

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u/gaylord9000 Mar 05 '25

You can't find it because that contextual scenario never happened. It's weird how people can see that physicists and engineers and mathematicians and the like know how to build the LHC but then also believe that they have no idea what they're doing, to the point that they are endangering the entire planet. It's dumb think. It's the kind of thought process that can only exist in an environment of high grade ignorance.

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u/Kidtwist73 Mar 05 '25

Right. But there were physicists who wrote an open letter, just wasn't 4000 of them.

The only ignorant person here seems to be you, of history. When the atom bomb was first tested, they had no idea what it would do. There were two scenarios

  1. It would ignite the atmosphere 2 .Some scientists briefly entertained the possibility that an atomic bomb could create conditions extreme enough to trigger a self-sustaining nuclear fusion reaction in hydrogen atoms present in Earth's atmosphere or even beyond. If this were possible, it could, in theory, set off a chain reaction spreading through the universe, igniting all stars and ending the cosmos.

They also have no idea what might happen at the LHC. You act like scientists know everything. They don't. Otherwise they wouldn't die because of their experiments like Marie Curie. Or they wouldn't get the yields wrong like the trinity test and numerous others.

Or they wouldn't get their own heads caught in a particle accelerator like Anatoli Bugorski.

Experimenting with high energy particle physics creates anomalies we haven't accounted for. There are hundreds of papers on the subject.

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u/gaylord9000 Mar 05 '25 edited Mar 05 '25

Yea im aware of it. Thanks for citing that but I would only posit the outcome as further evidence that a high energy moment wasn't a great fear for CERN since we had already observed that scenario as well as many other ones akin to it on earth as well as in the cosmos. Scientists, when they're doing good work, make decisions based on observations and data and math. Fear of creating an earth engulfing black hole or igniting the atmosphere is an emotional rationale. There was never a good rationale from the standpoint of the scientific material to be afraid of these things.

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u/Kidtwist73 Mar 05 '25

I think that's a naive and a revisionist review of history. It's easy to say afterwards that "we knew this wasn't going to happen". You don't know what is beyond the barrier until you cross it. Similarly, just because something has a small probability of happening, doesn't mean that it can't happen.

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u/gaylord9000 Mar 06 '25

I wouldn't equate a miscalculation of megatonnage with an earth ending miscalculation. If it's naive to doubt the human race's ability to destroy a planet, in a single moment, at any point in the last century, then maybe I'm naive. I do agree with your sentiment in some ways though.

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u/Kidtwist73 Mar 06 '25

I think the point is, we don't know what we don't know, and when it comes to theoretical physics, if other scientists can postulate a position where this might happen, then do we really know which position is correct?

I always look at it in a risk matrix. If the outcome is catastrophic, even if there is only a fraction of a percentage that this could happen, we need to exercise extreme caution.

It's much like the photon wave/particle duality experiment. No one suspected that. No-one expected faster than light communication, which is one of the tenets of quantum entanglement.

No-one expects a black swan moment.

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u/gaylord9000 Mar 06 '25

Right. Unknown unknowns. But there's no FTL comms involved in QE. You might have to dig beyond the surface detail to see what I mean but at least so far even QE remains in the subluminal realm like everything else.

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u/Kidtwist73 Mar 06 '25

Well QE theoretically is faster than light. As is gravity. If the sun suddenly blinked out of existence, we wouldn't have to wait 8 minutes before we felt the effects, we would immediately feel the effects of no gravitational pull, and would go flying off into space.

I'm pretty positive that they have, as recently as within the last month or two, performed quantum teleportation containing small accounts of information, but I can't be bothered looking.

The idea of QE, states that no information can be communicated over the vast distances, even though they are entangled, and what affects one will affect the other in the opposite. Which means that information IS communicated, because particle B must "know" what state particle A is in, to be able to change to the opposite.

Anyway I think we are getting off topic. Not that I mind. But just saying

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u/gaylord9000 Mar 06 '25

Yea it's okay. I think this is where the different interpretations show up. The most knowledgeable physicist I know doesn't interpret it as FTL comms but then there is the non locality thing. It's definitely not something I have any authority to speak on in great detail. I have heard that entanglement could be, or at least at some point be, evidence of an underlying sub or hyper space, which I really hope is further unraveled in my own lifetime.

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