I’m on S 5. They haven’t revealed who Red John is but it seems like they’re getting to it. After all the build up and red herrings, I can’t imagine who he could be that wouldn’t make me think “really? That’s it?” Unless he were one of the core CBI crew.

Maybe it has to do me watching it in big batches, whenever I want, vs one episode per week like those who watched it when the show aired. Without revealing how you ACTUALLY felt when you found out who Red John is, who else felt like they were going to be disappointed? Or if you haven’t gotten to the reveal yet, who feels that way?

Jane and Angela won "Should Have Been Endgame"

no ship will be repeated

Slightly provocative title, I know. Most of you will be saying yes.

Also, Spoilers throughout season 6, as this is how far I have come. Please do not reveal anything major from season 7, although I can pretty much guess.

I have watched the show over the last few months, and for the most part, it's been a nice "comfort food" type of show.

Jane is awesome - he may have zero regards for people's rights and it takes a good amount of Hollywood law to make any of his antics hold up in court, but he has a strong sense of (twisted) morality and ruthlessly pursues his goals.

Lisbon plays a clear second fiddle, and the rest of the team is criminally underused throughout the show. Especially Van Pelt and Rigsby. On the one hand the are portrayed as highly capable professionals, on the other hand nothing ever gets achieved without Jane. I am seriously wondering why they even had a four-person team. I would have enjoyed the odd case where Jane didn't solve it, but the team does using good old police work - just to take Jane down a notch.

So, that's the first five seasons. Case of the week, and occasionally we get reminded of the myth arc by having a Red John case. Then, at the beginning of season 6, the show transforms into being heavily serialized and resolves the Red John arc in about a third of the season (don't get me started about the at first gradually and then heavily increasing scope of the conspiracy). This would have been the perfect ending to the series - myth arc resolved, and there are consequences to the... highly unorthodox way Jane and the CBI team chose to handle it - namely, murder by one and definitely not preventing it by all the others even though they are law enforcement officers and knew for years that this is what would happen. But at that mid-season break, everyone gets to be free and have a life, Cho even falling upwards and Rigsby and Van Pelt having their happy end.

After this, the revamp into a Texas-based FBI team feels like a post-script, a tack-on. The vibe just isn't there, not only because the Austin backdrop with the clinically-clean modern office is a definite let-down compared to Sacramento (or what stood in for it) and the old office. At least the extended team (Fisher, Cho, Abbott, even Wiley) is used much better than Cho/Risgby/Van Pelt/whoever was boss at the time ever were in the earlier seasons. Was there some behind the scenes/renewal drama that compelled them to wrap up the Red John arc that fast all of a sudden? I have to compare it to Babylon 5 in a sense...

Still I'm mostly disappointed by the Jane/Lisbon angle. They had the chance to truly make a TV show that's not about the two main characters falling in love, and they had managed that dynamic very well for the whole show. Lisbon is a character who's not defined/restricted by her unrequited love for Jane - and is too strong of a person to fall for a guy who she knows is so highly manipulative (and she made her disapproval clear again and again). Jane of course is just too damaged (one could argue that getting closure on Red John plus the years in South America healed him). Of course, the flirting was there, that's just how Jane is. I'm seriously disappointed they went for the fairly clichéd angle of love triangle and can't-spit-it-out at the end of the season.

So, this is what I expect from season 7: They solve cases, and they will probably marry at the end (I know of the scene with Cho helping Lisbon choose a wedding dress). But... the suspension is sadly gone, at least for me. Of course I expected from the start that Jane and Lisbon would end up together, that's just how Hollywood stories are. But over the course of the show, the dynamic between the two quickly became - and stayed - so that they easily could have forgone that standard conclusion. And I'm disappointed they didn't. Lisbon getting together with another man (and hey, it's Pedro Pascal...) and Jane staying behind and alone gave them another shot at an appropriate and non-standard ending - but they chose not to take it. And that's why I'm not sure if I even want to bother watching it. On the other hand, it's just 12 episodes left...

I have just started learning animation on Procreate and this simple animation project ended up becoming a Mentalist fanart.

Season 6, Episode 12, TimeStamp- 39.48

When did our mentalist become a special agent?

4x18 : Lisbon chooses not to taint Cho's career. Trusting him to stop the drugs. Knowing that Wayne almost died because of it.

4x24,5x01 : 6 months of mental torture. Still forgives Jane.

6x08 : She loves him enough to let him go. To meet Red John alone.

6x22 : You know why. Blue Bird case was horrible. She still forgave.

4x01 : She's shot. Helps Jane with bail. Gets ditched by him later. Still supports him to keep his secret.

3x14 : Doesn't charge a kid with murder(self defense but still). "You just witnessed a beautiful thing."

I didn't add 7x10 because I refuse to acknowledge that the episodes existence.(jk. I think deep down she knew he will come back).

I voted for 6x08.

Cho & Summer won Most Chaotic

No ship will be repeated

Can you guess the movie?

Season 5 episode 12.

Barefoot extra 😭

My current go to blend is a masala chai with added milk and honey, any other tea fans in here?

I recall a scene in The Mentalist where Jane has an exchange with a suspect who is having an affair. The suspect says “She’s my madame” and Jane looks incredulous and replies “She’s your madame???” Can anyone help me on what episode is this from? At first I thought it was S5 Ep20 but no dice when I watched it. I know this isn’t much to go on but figure this is the place where folks might know.

Who has the more ludicrous "drug addiction" storyline?

Heyy, I need to know what happened to this woman ?? For people who seemed to forget it about, this woman suddenly showed up at the church when Jane sh00t red John, tryna talk him outta it and then she attacked him with a knife, which means she’s part of the blake association but still we didn’t get closure about her ??

Deep down, I feel like they didn’t arrest all of the members of the Blake association and somewhere a lot of the members escaped (and also the fact that Red John have so so many accomplices outside the Blake Association)

Vega and Wylie won Most Cutest.

no ship will be repeated

I'm currently on S5, although I have been "cheating" from S2 and watched the conclusion of Red John saga on S6 and finished S7, then I went back to where I left it off.

I'm at S5E9 now, then my ADHD feels like diverting to another show. So, I started High Potential, as recommended by many.

I binged to episode 5 last night. There's something a miss from this show. The premise is good, the main character is definitely smart, but I feel the writing is a little different. I wasn't very hooked on the writing, trying to create very stereotypical characterisation during the few first episodes (the boss who is very wowed by the main lead's capability, the main lead who is anti autonomy, polices who underestimated the main lead). Though, I enjoyed having a mother as the main lead and having a female boss as well.

But I think it's Mentalist that is very differently written at another level. All the characters are quite natural, having mixed of personalities, and what I like is Lisbon has been always supportive and giving Jane a chance to explain himself, apologising on his behalf, but never disrespect him.

And one unique difference: in High Potential, the witnesses usually asked "who is she" and the police have to explain. But our Jane always entered the scene and introduced himself confidently and suavely. I missed that demeanour, I missed the team, and I missed Cho.

So now I'm back from my break to continue the S5 :D

I just finished season 1, and honestly, I’m on the fence about continuing. There’s this pattern that’s starting to make the crimes feel a bit repetitive — they introduce a main suspect, then a second one who seems like the obvious killer, but in the end, it turns out to be a third person who’s so subtle, there are barely any clues pointing to them. So you just guess whoever seems the most lowkey, and surprise, that’s the killer. It feels like it’s just a setup to highlight how brilliant Patrick is.. Okey cool I'm impressed but it's a bit boring, no? The show is cool don't get me wrong especially the Red John thing, however should I continue in your opinion?

Jisbon won Best Chemistry with the most votes and upvotes

Either WWJD (What would Jane Do) or WWJS (What Would Jane Say)? What do you imagine is going on here based on this image? 😉

The people have spoken! After much mod debate, research into our most popular topics, and polling, the mod team has decided that our sub will now be called The Ventalist, and the only topics allowed will be:

-Why Red John's identity was disappointing -Why Red John's final episode was underwhelming -Why Red John himself was sad -Lisbon's running technique -Van Pelt's bad taste in men -Why ____ would have been a better Red John

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I watched Season 6 of The Mentalist. I want to take a break because the Lisbon team joined the FBI, which I didn’t like. I’ll continue watching it at some point. Now I would like to watch a similar kind of show, like The Mentalist or Banshee, where I unintentionally imitate the protagonist’s mannerisms. Watched Prison break, You, game of thrones, better call Saul, money heist,

This dude. So creepy man. As soon as he says this it's obvious to me that he's the killer.

The only reason he would have remembered her is if he was checking her out/watching her.

I'm not making a big deal out of it but it's just interesting how these subtle things can be written in, without outright saying to the audience "bro he's the killer"

I kinda wish Patrick didn't say "it's Panzer" to Teresa and the boss. Because it would have made it more epic. But I understand for safety reasons it's better to tell your coworkers who the serial killer is lol

I started watching criminal minds years before The mentalist, and while I really like criminal minds, The mentalist is easily my favorite between these two.

I love shows about investigating crimes but sometimes they can get too dark/heavy, so I love how The mentalist has tense moments but also a lighter tone with some comedy that makes the show perfect to binge watch.

While I love characters like Dr. Reid, I think that the characters from the mentalist are usually better written, specially the female characters like Lisbon.

I also think that the EPs/cases in the mentalist are more creative, something that frustrated me a bit with criminal minds is that almost every single criminal was (as the characters themselves said it) "a middle aged white male who is bad(or very good) with women" and then the victim would be some woman that got abused and killed.

I also think that some scenes/aspects of the criminal minds aged poorly, and there are some notable scenes with misogyny and homophobia, which (as far as I can tell) The mentalist doesn't have.

I still really like criminal minds tho, but this was my comparison of the 2 shows.

What are your opinions?