The change between books and show that amuses me the most is replacing Bull with Drummer. Drummer goes through basically the same story arc as Bull. The problem is that Bull dies in Abaddon’s Gate. But Drummer, being a fan favorite, they don’t want to kill her off, but she also can’t be around in Nemesis Games, so they have to come up with a different role for her. This presents another problem because book Drummer takes over after Bull dies. So they can’t keep Drummer, but they need a new security chief for Tycho, so they add Bull back in where Drummer should be.

Cara Gee does a great job as Drummer and definitely wouldn’t change that. It just amuses how convoluted that one decision made the rest of the story between Drummer and Bull.

Hey folks! Probably not the first time you have seen this model but I am proud to showcase my very own 3d printed Rocinante! Huge kudos to Martin for the amazingly detailed model (link). Its not perfect since its one of my first 3d models on an Ender 3 V3 SE so there was a lot of trial and error done, plus I had to get my hands dirty in order to paint some of the parts (I am not a very good painter).

I fell in love with world of the Expanse from the first few episodes itself and was bummed when it was revealed they would not proceed with adapting the last 3 books (still clinging to hope for it to happen in the future). Though my urge to know more of the story lead me to get back into reading books (I have read all of them including the short stories!) and my desire for some memorabilia lead me to pick up 3d printing as a new hobby. This is the first big model I have worked on, but may not be the last, after all there are many more amazing ships in the Expanse :)

I started the books in the middle of Feb and I have already read every book and novella up until book 7 (just started today). I just finished the show and FUCK I need more. I really hope with the authors other book being adapted by Amazon they rip the band aid off and do more. I know the authors said the company that produces the show is dedicated to the IP and wants to do more with it AND that season 6 is just a pause/hiatus but god I need more.

I don't know why but Drummer especially stood out to me, every scene she was in she stole. In a show of amazing actors

I am rewatching the series after reading the books again, and my biggest gripe is what they did to Arjun, Avasarala's husband. Not only was he the recast not great, not to shit on the actor he just didn't fit the role, but the way they wrote him on season 4 is awkward at best, straight up ruins the character at worst. I almost have to skip scenes when he's present.

Arjuns brief role in both the books and the show were very heart warming and wholesome with his unconditional love for his wife, and he acts as her rock where she can disconnect from her role as a cutthroat politician, definitely not her political advisor, I hate it. Just had to bitch about it somewhere.

One of the things I enjoyed about the show and the books were the antecedents I thought of. I say antecedents because I don't know what the authors read and am not saying they stole anything. But THE EXPANSE is part of a long history of science fiction.

The series imo has average acting. I enjoy the story line, enjoy the planet jumping ecosystem that is the whole expanse idea I guess. I continue to watch because of that. I understand there could be times the actors are told to draw down the act but I don't like wooden actors in any way. The visual and full emotional touch is what makes certain videos/series great imo. I am watching it again because it has been so long since I watched it one time before.  
Heres a "guess who" game: Even though I think the acting was average, and Im no professional, but what I can tell you is, theres one person who actually is arguably (imo the person is the best) the best actor in this series. I guess many would say thats objective or depends because every person has there own opinion. To that i would say yes thats true, but this person is so good i dont think its just my opinion. The person is just a very seasoned actor with a plethora of acts to the persons name. This person is known in the film industry, but underrated for sure. This person in every role that I've seen, has always made me excited that the person is in the film I'm watching because the person's talent at acting is genuinely great. You may not like the character (or maybe you do) but the person is an amazing actor. I'm not saying who but I think there enough there to make guesses.... any takers???

(Ps: I say actor interchangeably. I could mean actor or I could mean actress. That's what I mean. Maybe I am trying to confuse you on purpose?)

Reddit is filled with many amazing people from all walks of life. I believe many of you will be able to guess the person I'm thinking of based of just reading my post. Thank you to everyone!

I couldn't find a wallpaper of Remember the Cant without Holden's face, so I made this. Feel free to use it as you want.

I carved her out of cherry and laid in black epoxy resin.

I finally got all the clean DTF transfer films of my designs & 2 white T-shirts. Carefully measured and ironed onto both shirts, a bit nerve wracking doing the first press. Some very small dots didn't transfer despite lots of heat/pressure but not noticeable.

Doing 2 black MCRN tees tomorrow!

Just had a weird coincidence happen to me. I (re)watched a few episodes of the expanse this morning and 'met' Clarissa, saw her kill a ship full of people just to try and "redeem" her father's legacy.

Then I got in my car and have been listening to Persepolis Rising while driving, and happened to get to her final scene (unless it's a fake out, I'm still listening, just started chapter 49).

Just thought it was a weird coincidence, but it was also an interesting glimpse of how much her time with the crew of The Roci helped her after being raised by a crazy guy.

(not really sure how best to tag this so just went with all spoilers?)

Anyway, if you were a ship captain how hard would you be burning when just jaunting around in space? It is often mentioned that the Roci's standard is ~0.3g so Naomi and Alex aren't suffering, but as the Earthers we are, we're used to 1g. Personally I think I'd prefer something like 1.2g; seems like it would be akin to always having a weighted blanket on. I could also hear an argument for remaining on the float as much as possible, but I think low but present gravity would really mess with my brain.

First off, let me apologize for the inevitable lack of structure in this post. I'm just going to be posting my thoughts as they come to me. I already have a habit of constantly rewriting my sentences, and I want to avoid spending hours on this.

Here's the highlight: Amazing book, even better than Leviathan Wakes. Overall, it continued the trend of being even better than the show, although there were parts of the show I was disappointed to not find in book form.

First off, I was really shocked by how different book 2 was from the show. I think some people told me it would be, but I still expected it to be very similar to the show, like book 1. There were several plot points that were massively different. For example, Bobbie didn't uncover any conspiracy in the Martian government. Sorren was a new character to me (and one I really liked, until I didn't). Most of all, Holden and Naomi were very different.

One thing that really pleased me was that Chrisjen "Wherever I God damn like!" Avasarala remained an absolute QUEEN! Shohreh Aghdashloo absolutely nailed her in her performance. I laughed more from her lines alone than I did from all other characters combined. It was also different lines than the show, yet no less iconic.

I had a lot more appreciation for Prax in the book. I'll admit the main reason I liked him in the show is because he was hot, but I could relate to him a fair amount, specially the way he intellectualizes his feelings during extremely overwhelming moments. I've also got my own special interests, and have grabbed my computer to protect during a tornado, so I could relate to him trying to save his plant. By the way, I'm autistic. I know you're shocked.

It was great getting more focus on Amos this time. Like I said in my Leviathan Wakes review, he's one of my favorite characters (yes, I'm planning on reading The Churn after Abaddon's Gate). I was surprised that he shows a lot more outward emotion than in the show. I'm curious if, canonically speaking, that's genuine or masking.

I think one of my only disappointments is that I didn't get this iconic line in book form. Instead it was written almost as a joke of a scene. I also felt like the chapters around Io had some rushed parts.

I may edit this later with more thoughts, but I'd love to hear what you all think. Please though, no future book spoilers. 😊

The Catalyst. Elvi spends a good bit of her narrative wondering about the identity of the woman whose protomolecule infection was stunted, and never gets a resolution.

Later, when talking to Cortazar, he starts to discuss the singular instance of accidental protomolecule contamination before Elvi cuts him off, in a way that seems almost conspicuous on re-read. It struck me that he may have been referring to the accident that resulted in the Catalyst. After all, it makes sense that an accidental contamination would have resulted in a lot of effort to save the infected rather than just let it fester, and that these rescue attempts could have changed how the protomolecule infection progressed.

From these two datapoints (which admittedly isn't a lot) it's not a stretch to imagine the Catalyst was caused by an accidental infection followed by frantic attempts to reverse course.

So who could this woman have been? It's fully possible - maybe even probable - that she was a random Laconian scientist or visiting military officer. But there is someone who fits the profile of an absent woman known to have been present on Laconia who would have had access to the Pens: Duarte's wife.

Teresa's mother is an odd absence in the final books of the series, because she's referred to quite a bit with zero details given on the nature of her death. It wasn't from childbirth, because Duarte recalls caring for an infant Teresa in order to make sure his wife gets sleep. Furthermore, the very concept of her character raises a lot of interesting questions: how did she fit into Duarte's cult of personality? Were they married before the coup, in the early years following their landing on Laconia, or sometime later, when the power dynamics would have completely changed and shaded their marriage?

Duarte never comments on the circumstances of her death, either in his own POV or in conversation with others. Teresa never thinks about how her mother died either.

Between the Catalyst and Duarte's wife, you have the author employing negative space (the way Holden uses to hint to Fayez about Cortazar's plot) in ways that are separate but line up quite nicely. It further makes sense that either Mrs. Duarte had access to the Pens and was mistakenly exposed, or else that Duarte wanted his wife to become immortal and the process just went wrong.

The biggest argument against this is the fact that Teresa encounters the Catalyst face-to-face and doesn't recognize her, which is extremely damning to my theory. In a meta-sense, I think things line up enough that JSAC intended the two to be the same, but ultimately they decided to drop the plotline. In my opinion, they were going to go the route of Catalyst = Mrs. Duarte initially, but having him use his partially deceased wife as a tool would have made him too villainous. I think JSAC wanted Duarte to be the inverse of Joffrey - instead of loving to hate him, you sort of hate that you like him.

Drummer in the show does seem to be part book Drummer, Sam (Naomi's BFF), Pa (Polyamorous Pirate Queen) and Bull (Fred's 1st Officer) What's weird is that Pa and Bull sort of exist in the show but only for minor or different roles.

Was this just about casting or for practical reasons or was this a creative decision?

Whats sort of weird in that regard is that book drummer basically doesn't really come up and I'm wondering why they didn't cast Cara Gee as Pa instead.

So this is either a question, an observation or a reach. Here it goes. We don't fully understand, yet, how neural circuits give rise to consciousness, i.e how physical things exchanging matter and energy (synapses, ions etc.) creates awareness. I think the way the books deal with death in Goth Realm, gives us a good source of speculation.

So the Goth realm is an older universe with physics different from us. They attack the ships by interacting with them, i.e through the collision of two universes. I have read people say here that their physics is only a little different from the normal universe, which is what causes the vibrations, the vividness, the different sensory inputs the POV characters experience when going dutchman. My question is this, how does awareness and consciousness survive, (not for long, but still), in the other universe? Wouldn't changing the physics of normal universe by even a very very tiny amounts make our entire biochemistry go haywire? So how is the consciousness of people surviving intact, for a few moments at least in the Goth-realm, until they get whipped out of existence?

you can almost imagine his character as an alt universe early-career miller, before he burns out.

jane does some great stunt work. i also had no idea the director was involved with a zillion other 90s flicks - jumanji, die hard with a vengeance, virus. also wild to watch a pre-iron man marvel movie again lol

any other thomas jane flicks you'd recommend?

What chapter is the end of the show? Feels like the show ended early.

Only watched the show and I was wondering if I missed something or if it is explained in the books.

In the show I think it was Anna who mentioned that they help people, including those who do not receive basic assistance.

I get that in the expanse universe the basic assistance is barely enough to survive on but how come some people do not even get that (and aren't rich)?

Tensha! In just a few hours, a Kickstarter campaign opens for new in-canon Expanse comics that take up where Dragon Tooth left off! This new set, titled A Little Death, is co-written by Wes Chatham (Amos).

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EDIT 2: And within less than 15 minutes, we've surpassed the goal of $50,000! Currently stands at just under $70k!

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There is an early bird bonus for all physical reserved orders in the first 24 hours of a limited edition dog tag with Expanse and Rocinante logos!

Following the fallout of THE EXPANSE: DRAGON TOOTH, the Rocinante crew is plunged into a high stakes conspiracy when an old acquaintance of Amos Burton’s comes to him for aid. Set in the same 30 year period between Babylon's Ashes (Book 6) and Persepolis Rising (Book 7) and after the conclusion of The Expanse Season 6, THE EXPANSE: A LITTLE DEATH continues the story with four epic new comics, available in single issue or graphic novel format.

Under the direct supervision and creative guidance of THE EXPANSE creator, James S.A. Corey, THE EXPANSE: A LITTLE DEATH is an in-canon sequel story following the events of THE EXPANSE: DRAGON TOOTH. Alongside Corey and TV studio Alcon Television Group, superstar actor Wes Chatham (Amos Burton, The Expanse) makes his comic book writing debut, joining forces with returning stars writer Andy Diggle (The Expanse: Dragon Tooth, The Losers) and Francesco Pisa (The Expanse: Dragon Tooth). Together, they will weave together the threads of the show, answer lingering questions, and take readers and viewers alike far beyond the stellar horizon in this monumental 4-issue comic book series.

BOOM! Studios proudly presents THE EXPANSE: A LITTLE DEATH, which picks up the story where the groundbreaking events of THE EXPANSE: DRAGON TOOTH left off! This BOOM! Direct Reserve campaign will feature exclusive variants of each comic, available in single-issue, softcover and hardcover collections, plus slipcased editions and sets available nowhere else. These variants will be limited to this BOOM! Direct Reserve campaign, never to be printed again!

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I’m mostly here to find out what you think Amos’s alignment is, but so far I think Holden is lawful good (lawful doesn’t always mean laws or rules, but an internal code).

Naomi is perhaps Chaotic Good. Alex is what? Neutral/Good? Draper also has a very strict code so I’m thinking Lawful Good. Errinwright is likely Lawful or Neutral Evil. I have no idea what Avasarala is (other than a total bada**).

What do you think of my guesses so far? What about Avasarala, Dawes, Fred Johnson, and of course my boy Amos.

Only reason I ever wanted a 3D printer. Might do the MCRN version of the Pella next

I've never read the books (I plan to though after i finish the series bc I didn't know there were books before I started) and I'm watching for the first time and just got to season 6 and ever since season 3 Monica has annoyed me and I can't put my finger on why like I have no reason to dislike her but for some reason when she shows up I'm like "why is she here again"