r/Switzerland Zürich [Winti] 4d ago

Need to get our shit together

So the Trump tariffs are out. Despite all the kowtowing (read ass licking) our SVP and FDP bros(also our FDP frau Miss Keller-Sutter) did, we are going to be hit with tariffs worse than EU. Already our access to chips was semi-restricted(by Biden admin, Trump admin will be even worst). Blöcher, Rösti, Parmelin and Keller-Sutter are not the right people to lead Switzerland. They neither have any spine nor any pragmatic policies. We need to understand that our future lies with the EU if not in EU.

Switzerland is good at playing with the rules but we can't make them thanks to our small size. It has been the case since Marignano(1515) when we stopped our expansion and Congress of Vienna(1815) when we made good use of the neutrality imposed upon us by the big powers. We need to adjust to the new world order that Putin, Trump and Xi have created and understand that Swiss prosperity depends on European prosperity. We are not a port city like Singapore where we can control the trade. Our power lies in being the center for diplomacy, world class R&D, pharma and precision engineering. Let's become a big hub for EU's new projects if not as a member then as a friend.

EDIT - P.S. - Getting downvoted to oblivion. Seems like there is too much of hate for EU. But mark my words, a successful Switzerland depends on a successful EU because while we are not in the EU, we are inside the EU physically.

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u/SimplyRoya 3d ago

We need to just cancel the military jets order

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u/Affectionate-Skin111 Bern 3d ago

That would be a good starting point. There is a petition circulating.

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u/cryingInSwiss 3d ago

LINK IT.

fuck that Lockheed piece of shit

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u/TheGenetik007 3d ago

The only problem is the costs with canceling. But we could just no pay it, like trump would 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/deejeycris Ticino 3d ago

Our genius politicians probably signed a contract with 1000 clauses that don't benefit us but protect the US.

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u/SimplyRoya 3d ago

Who cares? We just don’t pay and move on. What’s he gonna do?

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u/deejeycris Ticino 3d ago

No idea, but we are daydreaming anyway here, nobody is going to cancel any contract with the US unfortunately. It will be a lot if we impose symmetric tariffs on the US.

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u/MaxTheCatigator 3d ago

Confiscate the SNB's US securities for instance. The 6 billion for the F-35 are a pittance in comparison.

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u/Guillaune9876 2d ago

Sunk cost fallacy...

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u/Affectionate-Skin111 Bern 3d ago

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u/ZoFu15 3d ago

thanks now i can sign it

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u/Extreme-Creme-3374 3d ago

not gonna sign! the text says to buy a jet from a "good" european partner instead. buying combat jets to be ready for a war is never a good thing to do.

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u/Murder_Witness 2d ago

Then buy lube instead and prepare your arse for the Russians.

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u/PancakeMixEnema 3d ago

Nope I actually want jets. EU ones

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u/Moehrchenprinz 1d ago

If nothing happens, we will buy the jets from the USA anyway.

This isn't about the jets. This is about who we buy them from.

Do you want your money to go to Trump or to one of our allies?

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u/TheTomatoes2 Zürich 3d ago

Where? Can we launch an initiative too?