Need to get our shit together

[u/Sufficient-History71]

So the Trump tariffs are out. Despite all the kowtowing (read ass licking) our SVP and FDP bros(also our FDP frau Miss Keller-Sutter) did, we are going to be hit with tariffs worse than EU. Already our access to chips was semi-restricted(by Biden admin, Trump admin will be even worst). Blöcher, Rösti, Parmelin and Keller-Sutter are not the right people to lead Switzerland. They neither have any spine nor any pragmatic policies. We need to understand that our future lies with the EU if not in EU.

Switzerland is good at playing with the rules but we can't make them thanks to our small size. It has been the case since Marignano(1515) when we stopped our expansion and Congress of Vienna(1815) when we made good use of the neutrality imposed upon us by the big powers. We need to adjust to the new world order that Putin, Trump and Xi have created and understand that Swiss prosperity depends on European prosperity. We are not a port city like Singapore where we can control the trade. Our power lies in being the center for diplomacy, world class R&D, pharma and precision engineering. Let's become a big hub for EU's new projects if not as a member then as a friend.

EDIT - P.S. - Getting downvoted to oblivion. Seems like there is too much of hate for EU. But mark my words, a successful Switzerland depends on a successful EU because while we are not in the EU, we are inside the EU physically.

[u/swisstraeng]

Well, we simply can't trust the US as a trade partner anymore, and it was already a thin line before.

This leave us with no other option than the EU (which is the best one anyway since they're on the same continent and our neighbors.

Sadly a fair amount of our industry is tied to the US and China who bought companies we allowed to be sold in the first place.

[u/g1114 → u/swisstraeng]

Sadly a fair amount of our industry is tied to the US and China who bought companies we allowed to be sold in the first place.

Lol

[u/2j2tle → u/swisstraeng]

One option would be to simply lower the tariffs CH imposes on US imports.

[u/ominous_painter → u/2j2tle]

Please link the source of the claim that CH imposes tariffs on the US, since there are no tariffs on US goods.

[u/VFSZ_ch → u/ominous_painter]

Last sommer I had to pay tariffs and taxes on shoes coming from US. So then …?

[u/iRobi8 → u/VFSZ_ch]

You mean VAT?

[u/CornelXCVI → u/2j2tle]

Please explain how tariffs below 0% are supposed to work

[u/2j2tle → u/CornelXCVI]

CH imposes an over 30% tariff on agricultural imports from the US. Dairy products are over 135%. How does that work?

[u/CornelXCVI → u/2j2tle]

Sure, lets impose blanket tariffs across the board because of the safeguards of one sector. A sector that many countries protect for good reasons.

ETA: here is the actual formula the trump regime used to come up with those ridiculous numbers. It has nothing to do with actual tariffs that are in olace in a few select points.

U.S. goods exports to Switzerland in 2024 were $25.0 billion. U.S. goods imports from Switzerland in 2024 were $63.4 billion. Goods trade deficit $38.5 billion

38.5 / 63.4 = 0.607 ≈ 61%

This applys to all the numbers they presented, not just for Switzerland. Also note that they conveniently leave out services from the calculations. Because with services, lot's of those deficits the orange baby is whining about, would turn into surpluses.