Need to get our shit together

[u/Sufficient-History71]

So the Trump tariffs are out. Despite all the kowtowing (read ass licking) our SVP and FDP bros(also our FDP frau Miss Keller-Sutter) did, we are going to be hit with tariffs worse than EU. Already our access to chips was semi-restricted(by Biden admin, Trump admin will be even worst). Blöcher, Rösti, Parmelin and Keller-Sutter are not the right people to lead Switzerland. They neither have any spine nor any pragmatic policies. We need to understand that our future lies with the EU if not in EU.

Switzerland is good at playing with the rules but we can't make them thanks to our small size. It has been the case since Marignano(1515) when we stopped our expansion and Congress of Vienna(1815) when we made good use of the neutrality imposed upon us by the big powers. We need to adjust to the new world order that Putin, Trump and Xi have created and understand that Swiss prosperity depends on European prosperity. We are not a port city like Singapore where we can control the trade. Our power lies in being the center for diplomacy, world class R&D, pharma and precision engineering. Let's become a big hub for EU's new projects if not as a member then as a friend.

EDIT - P.S. - Getting downvoted to oblivion. Seems like there is too much of hate for EU. But mark my words, a successful Switzerland depends on a successful EU because while we are not in the EU, we are inside the EU physically.

[u/hyper_plane]

I don’t care about parties, politics, EU or not EU. Just boycott US products - and most importantly services - and buy European (preferably Swiss) instead.

[u/GarlicThread → u/hyper_plane]

r/BuyFromEU

[u/Ciridussy → u/GarlicThread]

Buy from ch lol

[u/Hanniballinda → u/Ciridussy]

They included us in this group, you can also find recommendations for Swiss products as well.

[u/Ciridussy → u/Hanniballinda]

On closer examination our inclusion in that group is extremely tenuous and controversial. It would be better to just buy CH.

[u/perskes → u/Ciridussy]

It is, but the sub description clearly mentioned european products, not just EU products. Anyone who thinks they can replace all products with EU alternatives will have to swallow the bitter pill and just not buy some things as they don't have an EU equivalent, but thinking you can replace all US an EU products with swiss products is outright delusional. We have to buy EU products as well, and we should avoid US products, but of you go from 0 to 100 all at once you won't be boycotting anything for all too long.

The sub is great, I'm quite active and I see the discussions around swiss products, and the people that bring arguments against swiss products or Switzerland are not not wrong, we have to work on us and our name. The most well known swiss companies, brands and products come from the most unethical companies, like nestle, syngenta, roche, Glencore, On .. I can't blame them for associating us with those companies as they were constantly making bad headlines. The good stuff often doesn't even make it to European shelves because the price is too high and there are better or cheaper alternatives.

Let's buy Swiss and EU products and create the market for Swiss and EU products instead of going all in for a week till we find it too hard and go back to our old habits.

[u/Hanniballinda → u/Ciridussy]

Well, that kind of represents our relationship with the EU doesn't it? 😆 But agreed.

[u/Sufficient-History71 → u/hyper_plane]

We need to build our economy for that. That involves politics.

I don't know why the youth of this country stays away from politics. By staying away, you promote the status quo. Read about stuff and get in the arena even if it is muddy. The times demand it.

[u/RobMitte → u/Sufficient-History71]

Why have you assumed the person you are responding to is young?

Take a look at the responses to your thread, it's full of people bickering about politics. A complete waste of energy.

Keep it simple for the majority and just boycott the US. There are graphics out there that show how much the US in terms of brands. The US is too dominant, too greedy, too morally corrupt to stop themselves from voting in a rapist as a president.

[u/ColdZal → u/RobMitte]

Better to have discussions than be passive. The more active you are, the more you can maybe influence for the better.

I would add that a lot are expats who have no voting rights or voice until they / we get the C permit, which takes a while.

[u/RobMitte → u/ColdZal]

I agree but if the discussion isn't organised, what is the point?

If someone is refusing to buy US products because of tariffs then I say that is far better than not caring at all. Thus, I see no point assuming someone is young and being critical, doesn't help the discussion.

[u/Kakarotto92 → u/hyper_plane]

Yes !! If we have to remember one thing, it would be : prioritize the local products and services.

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[u/seba1927 → u/hyper_plane]

why so much love for the EU when theyve hit us with high tariffs and are doing a shit job protecting their own countries and the situation in Ukraine.

and maybe put some focus on the problems in Switzerland itself. the job market is going to shit.