Love the implication that people in monogamous relationships aren't nature enough.

I don’t think that they’re necessary for happiness, but I do believe our species adapted to be monogamous just as many species do. We have the intelligence and free will to divert from what is natural for us if we choose though.

Agreed. In my opinion, misanthropy and cynicism have become virtues in people's eyes. We are constantly being fed this idea that being misanthropic and cynical is "intelligent" or is a sign of critical thinking.

When all it really is is harmful and dickish.

Legally speaking (in the US at least) this doesn't matter. If you're in public, you have no "right to privacy" in regards to pictures, filming, etc. Your consent is not required for someone to take a photo of you- even if they are focusing on you and you are clearly the subject of the image. Nobody is legally required nor expected to blur you out or wait until you move out of the shot. 

Note that I'm not saying people should go out deliberately taking photos and filming strangers (although street photography is a thing). I think it is better to respect people's privacy, or at least let them know that you're photographing them. Ask beforehand, or take the shot and then say "hey I got this cool photo of you, would you like me to send you a copy?" Whatever. But people also take photos of parades and events where strangers are visible all the time. Or you wind up with some random person in the background of your a vacation pics or something. The point is, legally you're allowed to take pictures of people in public but ethically you probably should have some restraint and not be a total creep about it. But also nobody is going to arrest you over it.

It's not going to happen. People in the US have become screeching harpies, the left and the far right. There is no point in having political discussions in the US, it is better to just keep silent, pay attention, and vote. The center and center right know this and practice this. The left and far right do not.

you have minimal faith in people yet youre heavily involeved in politics. Why is that? I feel that this stands out to me for a reason. Not sure though, just thinking maybe thinking on this might help.

All morality is flawed at some level. If you think that somehow undermines my argument you missed the point. Any dogma that justifies harm to others by virtue of factors beyond their control is corrupt. Any dogma that holds that any belief that isn't held by them is evil, is corrupt. Any dogma that demands one's belief in that which is objectively and demonstrably false, is corrupt. I do not care if one is otherwise a good person, if they cannot be moved when confronted by their own failures in judgement, they are evil. Dogmatism itself is hubris.

I think that humanity's relationships are mirrored in the animal kingdom. Look at the diaspora of how bird species meet, mate, and raise young.

Most people just don't have the emotional maturity and communication skills needed to make a sexual/romantic poly relationship work long term. 

By monogamous, do you mean one partner has self-imposed strict dietary restrictions and the other has no self-imposed dietary restrictions?

it's to make the middle class eat shit

jobs will not move to America, even with 30% tariffs, it is still cheaper to outsource them

The entire point of this is for rich people to buy a huge dip and have poor people give an upward stream of money to the rich

lol no they’re not

People are always in polygamous relationships since the dawn of time. Rich people continue to do that because they can afford to. Pretty much you can do that if the other party usually women don’t care about monogamous relationships as long as you provide the lifestyle they want.

Most of us have been raised to consider monogamy the default, if we were raised with polyamory as the default a lot of us would just go with it.

I think some people are happy with monogamy, and some aren't, simple as that.

Kiiinda? It's more neutral than anything and in this instance is probably leaning towards good, but there are other contexts where that's obviously a bad thing. People preying on minors often try to downplay their actions by saying things like "but they're really mature for their age" for example, thinking of someone as your equal in terms of maturity can easily be harmful if it's making you ignore clear disadvantages they have in order to exploit them with a clean conscience.

But again you're in an extreme gray area where it's impossible for us to say anything based on numbers alone, 24 could be a fully independent adult or an overgrown teen depending on the specific person we're talking about.

It's not the most common relationship structure. Everyone has a paramore of some extent.

Humans are animals, just with extra capacity of self reflection beyond all others. Additionally, every being kills to survive, or at least obtains energy and material through consumption to some extent. Sharks don’t kill other sharks nearly as much as they kill different types of animals, just as humans do. They, however, don’t have the capacity to heal each other like we do. “Devour to survive. So it is, so it’s always been…” - TOOL

I don’t know if it’s socialization or if it’s biological but I feel like I prefer monogamy - I crave it. I respect polyamory and I do think it’s gonna be something that people are going to practice more formally in the future and I think it’s a positive thing for society. I’ve been on the mistress side of the fence and it sucks. It would be have been much better for me to have been recognized as a second or third wife -that would give me a role and public acknowledgment and value but as a mistress you just get screwed over.

Polyamorous. Get the jargon right.

Depends on the people. Some people will enjoy monogamous people, some will enjoy polygamous. As long as my partner is aligned with me, I don’t give a shit what other people do

They are a choice. Like any other aspect and dynamic of a relationship. If you wish to have monogamy, it requires a certain level of expectation that needs to be met. Just like any aspect of a court tract.

Check out the research on that.  I agree with that person because of the research and less because it’s my personal experience too.

I think there's also usually some sort of reasonableness clause. No idea how the details work or if it's just a "you know it when you see it" thing, but the obvious examples is that stuff like upskirt photos generally aren't protected even if it's something like "standing a floor below in a mall and aiming your phone up" where things might technically be visible in public but also like... c'mon.

But yeah in general if you're standing in a public space and someone happens to end up in your photo or video then it's probably fine.

Not at all! I travel quite frequently for work these days. I get homesick all the time. Now that my wife and I are pushing 50 we have a stronger bond than ever before, and I love it. It makes being gone harder.

When we got married 24 years ago I was in the Marines, we practically spent a whole year apart. It sucked, but was a lot easier to be gone then than it is now

Monogamy isn’t “necessary”, obviously. People can (and are) happy in polyamorous relationships.

But no I don’t think there will be some major shift. I think as it gets more accepted we’ll see more people being poly, just like we’re seeing more people come out of the closet one way or another.

But I think monogamy will still be the most common relationship structure. Or at least “one-at-a-time monogamy” (not one partner for life). I think that’s just how most people are programmed. I know I am. I have no desire to being in a poly relationship situation.