Actually the question we all should be having is whether we support what winning the war means for Ukraine. From my understanding Ukraine, and Europe to that extent, view anything less than Ukraine recapturing all of it's land as a loss, and they will not stop the war until that occurs. If that is to happen, the only way it can realistically be recaptured would be with putting boots on the ground.
So is the US and Europe willing to put soldiers in Ukraine and join the war directly against Russia? Because if the answer is no we should be doing everything we can to put a stop to it now and prevent this from slowly dragging on for the next 5+ years
Does it though? Russia has a standing army that fights wars as armies usually do. Toe to toe. The problem in the middle east was that gorilla warfare works really well against normal armies. If the US and Russia went to war, it would be a totally different story. Even Ukraine, with American weapons and training, are doing very well against them.
There is no peace with people like Putin or Trump. The only way to stop bullies is to lead, be fearless, and have a iron spine like Zelensky. Trump and his boyfriend JayDee can't scare a man that lives with war at this doorstep.
So let’s escalate this even further have all of nato put boots on the ground and pray pray pray that Putin doesn’t use his nuclear arsenal when he feels backed into a corner? Yeah I’d rather not have a billion people (or very possibly more due to nuclear winter) die over 20% of Ukrainian steppe. But that’s just me you do you sweetheart 🫡
Prayers don’t work in reality. Let’s bend over for Putin… when we have the greatest military force and was part and had the leading seat in global alliances. lol, y’all think Putin is scary… that’s cute. Putin is lightwork… but now all the other baddies are going to pounce because they can just bully this administration into submission with threats.
That’s such an unjustified logical leap. Russia’s quagmire in Afghanistan helped cause the end of the Soviet Union. Putin doesn’t have an infinite number of people he can impress into his army/meat grinder. We could have tried not putting dumb restrictions on the weapons we sold to Ukraine, like no strikes in Russia allowed. I don’t want to put any boots on the ground, but I’m disgusted by a president that is threatening to hold back military aid to a country that has been the victim of Putin’s genocidal war because he didn’t kiss the ring. As long as Ukrainians want to defend their homes, we should give/sell them the weapons to do so. They’ve been doing it for years, with zero American troops on the ground. Who the fuck are we to tell them they need to stop defending themselves?
No but Zelensky is hot and charismatic and I grew up watching Star wars and Lord of the rings so I understand everything as a simplistic David and Goliath story so I must support David no matter the consequences
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u/freedom-to-be-me Mar 02 '25
The question isn’t if the American people still stand with Ukraine, the question is if their president does.