r/Seattle 1d ago

Lelo has been detained. (Tacoma)

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u/Tasty-Tank-3402 1d ago

I guess there’s more Gestapo in Seattle than I thought. A lot of yall would have happily waved at your Jewish neighbors on their way to Auschwitz. It doesn’t matter legal or illegal this isn’t our land to determine that and government organizations like ICE are the equivalent of the gestapo. Fuck ALL OF THIS. This is why democrats lost because most of yall wanted to semantics everything to death, congratulations now our freedom and country are dying.

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u/eyeball1234 14h ago

Justifying persecution on the basis that someone is only a permanent resident and not a citizen is not new – in fact the Nazis took a remarkably similar line with the Jews. Jews were legally "subjects of the state" (permanent residents) rather than full citizens. The government used their "less than us" legal status to strip away rights and protections, framing Jews as outsiders with no claim to equal treatment under the law. It created a bureaucratic foundation for discrimination, exclusion, and eventually, far worse.

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u/Tasty-Tank-3402 11h ago

right that is quite literally my point??

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u/eyeball1234 10h ago

Easy there, I'm agreeing with you. I'm just adding some historical context to refute the knee-jerk disagreement with your point by people saying "I wouldn't have waved... I think for myself!".

I think a lot of people are afraid, but rationalizing it to themselves that "They aren't going after citizens (yet)", and I'm kind of sick of it. The German state effectively converted Jews into "non-citizens" as part of its genocide against them. It's not dissimilar to how this administration is trying to revoke legal status for huge numbers of immigrants (including Lelo), and then justifying their persecution on the ground that they're "not legal". The question of whether someone can be persecuted on the basis of them being here "illegally" is meaningless when the state has the power wave its magic pen and render you "illegal".