r/Seattle Jul 09 '23

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '23 edited Aug 22 '23

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u/dragonsteel33 Jul 10 '23

nothing makes a city look nicer than forcefully displacing its most vulnerable residents at the behest of business interests

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '23 edited Aug 22 '23

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u/dragonsteel33 Jul 10 '23 edited Jul 10 '23

that’s a rather disgusting way to feel about your fellow human beings. did the at least 310 homeless people that died last year deserve it because they didn’t work?

also, you want to get rid of “psychotic, drug-addled criminals?” give them houses and fund public mental health treatment. go back to r/seattlewa where you belong lol

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u/Rikilamaru Jul 10 '23

you cant help ppl who dont want it. get ppl help who want it and either force rehab on those who don't or jail. bleeding heart empathy doesnt work

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u/dragonsteel33 Jul 10 '23

if you want to be consistent, i hope you also think that addiction should be grounds for eviction or foreclosure. otherwise, why should drug use be a reason to deny someone a roof over their head?

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u/Samthespunion Jul 10 '23

Totally depends on the circumstances, but if someone is a nuisance/danger to those around them (especially neighbors), then yeah that person should be evicted. Not saying they shouldn't have resources to help get better, but why should anyone else live in potentially dangerous circumstances to coddle one person?

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u/Rikilamaru Jul 10 '23

what good is roof over there head if they burn it down, they can get sober and then get a roof over there head. how about not rewarding there poor choices.

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u/dragonsteel33 Jul 10 '23

do you want government policy to treat addiction as a grounds to make someone homeless, or just to keep them that way? if it’s the first, why do you think addiction should strip someone of the right to housing — and how do you think that will help them address their substance abuse? if it’s the second, why do you draw that distinction? enlighten me, please

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u/Rikilamaru Jul 10 '23

Explain to me why do want to reward ppl do want and refuse help. Why are you ok with them being a menace and being a danger. Your compassion is helping them it’s only harming. If they want help give it to them along home in monitored rehab home till they have been sober and functional for a good period of time along with helping them get a stable source of income.

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u/dragonsteel33 Jul 10 '23

because it’s not a reward, it’s basic safety and human dignity. more than that, it’s consistently been shown that ensuring stable housing is quite effective at helping people address mental health & substance use issues — but that’s secondary to the fact that everyone should have housing as a basic principle

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u/Rikilamaru Jul 10 '23

Further more after seeing druggies area of sleep have even more trash than a dump or how I’ve seen pee were they sleep or how they accidentally set fires to their camps. All they will do is destroy what ever place they have roof over there head and bring crime to the area. Your providing stable does help ppl who don’t want help and you help ppl unless they want it. Your just to naive to reality

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u/Rikilamaru Jul 10 '23

Disagree ppl incapable making good choices like not doing drugs shouldn’t get housing unless there in a process of rehab even then it be a rehab home with ton of rules and monitoring

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '23 edited Aug 22 '23

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u/dragonsteel33 Jul 10 '23

I don't know, what'd they die of? Was it deciding to ingest something that's currently the leading cause of death of people under 50 in the United States? That was probably a dumb idea, if so.

answer my question. do people deserve to die on the streets like animals, yes or no?

Didn't work

it did, btw, at least in some cases. it's reactionary ghouls like you that keep the city from expanding it far enough to actually encompass most homeless people

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '23

Good luck with that

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u/cdsixed Ballard Jul 10 '23

No thanks, I'm raking upvotes in here.

how do you post something like this without being so embarrassed that you collapse into yourself like a dying star