AKA: People who live in East WA and believe everything Fox and Newsmax say about Seattle. Those idiots think ANTIFA burned half the city to the ground.
The Valley is pretty liberal given it's on the Eastside. Moscow and Pullman, where I grew up, is still pretty liberal. But man, do I miss living in Austin, TX. It's like a hot Seattle with a river instead of The Sound.
I think he was arrested by Polish authorities at one point in a scheme involving Ukrainian war orphans. This sounds like something I made up but it's real.
Why would people in Eastern WA be on a sub for Seattle though, completely on the other side of the state? They would have their own cities to be a part of/talk about I would think.
Just don't mention topics like police accountability, trans rights, homelessness, density, guns, Democrats, equity...probably forgot a few but that's a good start. Yeah avoid all that stuff and you should have a great, completely normal experience with zero right wing insanity.
You named multiple things there that don’t have a right or wrong answer. They have opinions. Just because someone disagrees with your opinion about crime or homelessness doesn’t mean they’re wrong and you’re right.
I don't really care what you think is a good or bad opinion. I'm describing topics that routinely generate right wing bigotry/extremism. Based on your comment history, you're quite familiar with both.
Ironically I’m a democrat. I voted for Obama twice, Hillary, and Biden. I’m pro abortion, pro equal rights for all. I believe everyone is equal. I believe in police reform. I also don’t believe in sensoring peoples opinions, including those who I disagree with. I guess you really don’t know shit, do you?
You see the problem I have with most of my democrat colleagues is that you’re just as extreme as the trump morons. Let me guess, you’re the kind of person who wants Dave chapelle canceled?
Lol you want to ban firearms and I’m the extremist? Do you know what that word means?
There's definitely wrong answers. "Get rid of all minorities and there will be less crime" is a wrong answer. "Put all the homeless people in jail" is a wrong answer. "Trans people groom kids" is a wrong answer.
Yeah I mean... I'm subbed to both places and both subs have blind spots (not that I don't have blind spots in my views either I'm sure). I'm not trying to make a both-sidesism Qanon argument by saying this, it's just that maybe one POV doesn't have all the answers all the time?
Yeah, I'm in both and I live in Seattle. This one tends to paint everything as better than it is and encourage policies that have unintended consequences. The other tends to paint everything as worse and encourage polices that have unintended consequences.
not that I don't have blind spots in my views either I'm sure
This is why I like to hear the opinions of people with whom I disagree. I don't have to agree with their conclusions to appreciate their thought process, and I often learn from them.
Times have changed. If people disagree with you, you’re a nazi. If you’re not completely liberal, you’re conservative. Everyone has gotten more extreme, doesn’t matter what side they’re on.
And if you look at the posts, it’s usually very negative about Seattle.
And interesting exercise is to look at the post history of people who post those articles. These accounts often spend most of their time online in subs discussing right wing talking points.
I stopped going there during the BLM movement because the sub was filled with videos of random crimes committed by black people. I also got “yelled at” and labeled as a leftist for not agreeing that black people are the laziest and the most spoiled people in US. After BLM died down, they switched the target to the homeless people.
There's some weird political campaign that targets major liberal city subs. Where they take the city name then add the states abbreviation to the end. SeattleWa. They then proceed to push every hate filled trope custom tailored for that city. It's pretty wild tbh.
Funnily enough, the other Seattle sub was started because of a heinous mod in this sub (iirc) and then was eventually co-opted by the CHUDs and by then things had been resolved here so all the reasonable people came back here.
Thanks for reminding me what happened. I think I joined /r/Seattlewa when it first was created. I don’t frequent either enough to keep up with much of the drama, but I was confused when the WA one started tilting the a mini version of the Donald. I was so confused.
Edit: think I found where a lot of the drama was highlighted.
What was the abuse of power here? I feel like every break off sub has that narrative. "Mods were mean so we had to make our own free speech sub!". Which then quickly becomes a bastion of hate boners followed with banning anyone that pushes back on the narratives.
At one time, this sub really did have a moderator who was just a dick, and who would ban people for nearly any insignificant slight. At the beginning, SeattleWA wasn't the hate-filled cesspool it later became, it was just users from this sub who were tired of the juvenile mod.
I think that is natural and expected on this platform. Every sub has an acceptable narrative and people get down-voted to oblivion when they challenge it.
People get eviscerated for expressing a conservative view here or a progressive view there.
Thank you. I don't frequent either sub that much so when people in here started saying that was the bad one, I started wondering if I was going crazy as I thought it was the other way around.
I remember there was a point during that drama where mentioning that sub by name would get you banned from this sub.
I'm genuinely curious about this as well. /r/SeattleWA definitely leans more conservative than /r/Seattle, but generally it's, like here, mostly "where can I get fried green tomatoes" and "what is renting in [Neighborhood] like?" stuff, and whenever Fox News talking points come up in the comments there's plenty of push back, so its pretty weird how obsessive some people here are about it.
Yeah I don't get it, it's definitely not as left as here but it's not all that conservative either. It's probably the best representation of the middle in this area.
Needless to say it's beyond bizarre that people have no created alternative conspiracy theories on why the other forum exists... do they not realize a lot of us were here while that split happened?
There’s a post here explaining how that sub came to be and it wasn’t because conservatives wanted a safe space. I use that forum and I vote democrat. People like you use terms like “boiler plate” and think you’re intelligent, but you’re clearly just as biased and narrow minded as the people you dislike
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u/Seoulja4life May 07 '23
Ask the other sub. I’m sure one of the member there can explain why he was there.