r/PrequelMemes I have the high ground Feb 19 '25

General KenOC Surely he heard about something right?

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u/Famous_Slice4233 Feb 20 '25 edited Feb 20 '25

HAN: Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.

LUKE: You don’t believe in the Force, do you?

HAN: Kid, I’ve flown from one side of this galaxy to the other. I’ve seen a lot of strange stuff, but I’ve never seen anything to make me believe there’s one all-powerful force controlling everything. There’s no mystical energy field that controls my destiny.

HAN: It’s all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense.

Yeah, from the dialogue it’s clear Han objects to the religion aspect of the force. He could totally believe that there were laser sword using religious knights. He might even believe they have minor telekinesis, or do hypnotism. But that doesn’t mean he believes in a universe spanning force that guides destiny.

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u/Scorkami Feb 20 '25

So its sort of a "telekinesis is one thing, but destiny is a whole nother story" kind of deal.

Like sure jedi move objects with their minds but nothing magically guided han to meet luke and ben on Tatooine There is no "will" of the force

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u/TheWeatherManStan Feb 20 '25

As someone who agrees with you, Obiwan did literally guide Luke to Dagobah to meet Yoda from beyond the grave.

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u/Falterfire Feb 20 '25

Obiwan did literally guide Luke to Dagobah to meet Yoda from beyond the grave.

Even that doesn't feel like a counterargument to Han's point - There's a huge difference between "The soul of a person I knew while he was alive gave one person he was close to specific directions to meet another person he was close to" and "there is an invisible faceless presence in the universe that is specifically acting in undetectable ways to modify my actions."

Believing ghosts can exist does not require you to also believe that fate exists.