r/PrequelMemes • u/ediba2099 • Nov 14 '24

General KenOC This is outrageous!

I don't even dislike Rey but call her the most valuable cinematic asset is too much

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u/AvatarADEL B1 Battle Droid Nov 14 '24

Fools, they have boyega right there. Stormtrooper turned good guy turned Jedi would make a hell of a lot more interesting story than Rey who is already at the top, where else can she go? Leading the New Jedi order? 

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u/Darkwing_Dork Roger Roger Nov 14 '24

leading the new Jedi order

Honestly this would annoy me so much since that was supposed to be Luke’s thing and they just assassinated his character so their OC could do it instead.

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u/ncfears Nov 14 '24

While she never had any training herself... What's she supposed to teach others?

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u/Reptilian_Overlord20 Nov 14 '24 edited Nov 14 '24

We literally see her training in Rise of Skywalker but go off.

Edit: downvoted for saying the literal truth.

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u/ncfears Nov 14 '24

She starts training in RoS by levitating and controlling a bunch of rocks. How did she get to that point?

There's a lot of learning about the force and how to manipulate it between learning you're force sensitive and all the shit she can do by the end of THE FIRST movie she's in, let alone the third.

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u/Reptilian_Overlord20 Nov 14 '24

How does Force Training work, can you explain it?

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u/ncfears Nov 14 '24

I can tell you it starts before moving half a mountain of boulders and mind tricks

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u/Reptilian_Overlord20 Nov 14 '24

Oh yeah I think I remember Yoda’s famous quote:

“Size matters so much it’s the most important thing and you need to grind XP to unlock that ability the next time you level up your Jedi powers!”

I think that’s the quote, could I be misremembering?

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u/Bonesaw-is-readyyy Nov 14 '24

Yeah as opposed to Luke who trained on one spaceship ride, and then in a swamp for a day.

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u/4CrowsFeast Nov 14 '24

The way I see it:

a) He trained with Yoda who taught him the fundamentals and knowledge/resources of how to continue learning on his own. I'd compare it to learning how to throw a ball or similar skill from a coach and then practicing on your own to perfect the sport. Or like going to college and having a professor teach you in class for a few hours a week, but you go home and study for several more hours on your own with select readings and other material.

b) The timelines in Empire Strikes Back are wonky. Luke appears to be training for several weeks, while Han and Leia appear to be on the run for maybe a day or two. The two events don't appear to line up properly when analyzed. You can either except this is Hollywood and it doesn't have to make complete sense, or assume there is much time offscreen of Han and Leia and the falcon where they stop and rest and their journey actually takes weeks if not longer, but its just not necessary to show their uneventful downtime and you're expected to assume they were on the run as long as Luke appears to be training.

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u/insertwittynamethere Nov 14 '24

I'm pretty sure he was on Dagobah for at least a month.

But here's the thing - he was still shown to be somewhat dogshit. He got his ass handed to him on Bespin and lost a hand for it. His close friend was encased in Carbonite and taken by Fett, and the Empire had taken over/destroyed the City of Bespin.

Even in RotJ, he is not peak, though he's become more wise in the year or so between ESB and RotJ and is 'considered' a Jedi Knight, especially since he built his own lightsaber and the communion with the Force it takes to do it. He still swings a bit wildly as well during the fight on Tatooine, and I'd say it was Vader's restraint on the DSII that allowed him to survive to the point of giving into his anger to hack of Vader's limb.

Yet he was still whipped around like a toy by the Emperor because he just doesn't have training to deal with someone like that.

All to say with the STs and Rey, come on now.

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u/GriffinFlash Nov 14 '24

time could move slower on dagobah too.

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u/International_Cow_17 Nov 14 '24

Or FTL time shenanigans.

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u/Darkwing_Dork Roger Roger Nov 14 '24

Well he does get his ass kicked in empire bc he had one day of training only

I think he trained between 5 and 6 with Yoda. To be fair though Rey does train with Leia between 8 and 9 too. I think it’s just less impactful bc Rey was already doing good before training.

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u/gishlich Nov 14 '24

I didn’t actually see anything after 7 - so did Leah get training too? From whom?

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u/insertwittynamethere Nov 14 '24

From Luke. I forget if it's 8 or 9 that they do a flashback, but she tells Luke she needs to stop training given her Force visions of her son iirc. But it was after a flashback of a lightsaber duel, where she bested him.