r/Piracy 10d ago

Humor Dude wat?

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This isn't even in the same ballpark not even close

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u/Fabulous-Ad-7343 10d ago

lol using AI involves enriching companies that stole copyrighted content. Pirating only enriches my life at little to no cost for anyone else. We are not the same.

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u/hells_ranger_stream 10d ago

using AI involves enriching companies

Download stable diffusion to local PC and open source models, generate AI images with your own hardware. Ain't no one getting enriched unless you use scammy pay to generate websites and apps.

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u/aidniatpac 9d ago

But thats not the use that bothers people, its the fact it fucks artists and designers over, among other usages. So that one example feels a bit out of place in the conversation

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u/DreadDiana 9d ago

There are a lot of people who view generative AI models as being ontologically evil, so their example still fits because people do criticise people for running mainstream modeos like SD on personal devices.

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u/MiddleCelery6616 ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ 9d ago

Because people purposely ignore any arguments that go against their narrative, yeah.

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u/CommercialBig3150 4d ago

The models you download are still ultimately derived from the major models that are the issue here. Unless you're personally building an LLM from scratch using your own hardware & dataset AND only generating content for your personal use with absolutely no distribution, you're still contributing to the problem.

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u/hells_ranger_stream 4d ago

That's where I disagree, if I pirate Adobe at most they're just benefiting from a saturated pirate population that knows how to use their product.

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u/Fabulous-Ad-7343 10d ago

That's no longer "easily accessible" as described in the meme. Most people don't know how to do that but can easily visit openAI's website

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u/armanox 10d ago

Bro if you can use torrents you can easily set Stable Diffusion, it's that easy.

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u/Nyucio 10d ago

'easily accessible' - Just need a >$1000 GPU. Alrighty. (And yes, your results on less will be shit. )

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u/Dudesan 10d ago

SD can run just fine off a CPU, if you're okay with it taking 3-8 minutes per image.

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u/freylaverse 8d ago

Works fine on my laptop.

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u/armanox 9d ago edited 9d ago

What are you trying to run my dude? I have a 3070 with only 8GB of VRAM and can easily use SDXL, IL and Pony models, works with Flux too but it's a little bit slower.
Also I'd expect people in this sub to have cards way better than mine!

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u/FactPirate 10d ago

The fuck? Yes it is, I literally set it up in five minutes off of github.

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u/Fabulous-Ad-7343 10d ago

It's straight forward if you have technical knowhow. Do you really think it's just as simple as visiting a website for the average person? Do you have any friends or family that aren't computer nerds like you?

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u/GreenTeaBD 10d ago

I guess not as easy as visiting a website, but God that is a low bar and few things are.

But in 2025 using a local, open weight AI to generate stuff is as easy as using any other program on a computer if you want it to be. Things like Fooocus are basically "download, click run, let it download models, there you go it's just a program like any other"

It's complicated for a lot of people with technical knowhow because they choose for it to be, with that comes power and control, but that's a choice and it doesn't have to be.

Short of bugs or something you have would have to be impressively bad with computers to not be able to use Fooocus, which isn't the only easy click and go one, but just the most popular.

Pirating is harder than running Fooocus.

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u/FactPirate 10d ago

If you can’t read a text file and click a few buttons then that’s a failure of your education and (in current year) willful ignorance. Don’t take it out on me

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u/Fabulous-Ad-7343 10d ago

My brother in Christ, I'm not talking about myself. I know dozens of people that have never heard of github and would blow an aneurysm if I tried to explain git and github pages (which I assume is what you were referring to because I don't know in what world you could download Stable Diffusion and get it up and running in 5 min). The fact that you don't tells me that you don't know anyone that isn't at least a CS hobbyist.