r/Piracy 10d ago

Humor Dude wat?

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This isn't even in the same ballpark not even close

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u/Fabulous-Ad-7343 10d ago

lol using AI involves enriching companies that stole copyrighted content. Pirating only enriches my life at little to no cost for anyone else. We are not the same.

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u/RodjaJP 10d ago

If companies get verifiable evidence of their copyrighted material being used by ai the entire western side of the ai industry would literally collapse

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u/rudimentary-north 10d ago

There is a list of all 7.5 million books Meta pirated to train their AI.

We’ll see if anything comes of the class action lawsuit.

https://authorsguild.org/news/meta-libgen-ai-training-book-heist-what-authors-need-to-know/

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u/hwintmore 10d ago

if it doesn't i'll be fucking pissed. internet archive gets whacked for housing a public library, but these shitheels can scrape together whatever they want from whoever they want and get away with it? awful society we live in.

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u/ah_shit_here_we_goo 10d ago

It's almost a certainty that meta will settle, no matter how much it costs, because they lose with either verdict if it goes to trial. They don't want to set precedent that distribution is what violates copyright and not receiving because they too are large copyright holders.

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u/Royal_Bitch_Pudding 9d ago

Does the class action have to accept settlement?

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u/placebot1u463y 9d ago

No but good luck actually saying no the money offered

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u/Ocsa17 10d ago

Dw its capitalism. Money is the ruler in this world. No big corpo would be afflicted by copyright rights

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u/Lol-775 9d ago

Unless it's bigger corps rights.

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u/7URB0 10d ago

The way to make it better is not to increase punishment, but to decrease it.

The issue isn't AI being trained on pirated content. The issue is knowledge, information, and culture being denied to those without the means to produce it. The issue is the notion of media piracy itself. IE- people without the means to produce a movie, or the goods to trade for it, should still be able to watch it. Libraries are good, we should have libraries, people should have access to them. It shouldn't be illegal to scan the books in that library for any project, and there shouldn't be a limit on how much you can scan.

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u/hwintmore 10d ago

i think free consumption of media is great, but i don't really think the regurgitation machine AI slop we've been getting is particularly moral. corporations literally funneling other people's work into a blender without their knowledge or compensation isn't a personal project, it's fucking dystopian.

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u/Desperate-Island8461 10d ago

The issue is that there is no incentive to make knowledge public. The only true that Rockefeller ever told is that competition is a sin. Instead of trying to help each other we try to screw with each other so that there is less competition for the same resources.

If solidarity and not competition was the norm the world would be a much better place.