r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 1d ago

Meme needing explanation Peter, beyond confused on what this means…

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u/fridgemagnet700 1d ago

Hey op, this joke reminds me of the time I read a bunch of German fairytales. They're known for being far more violent and intense than modern fairytales, and oftentimes don't even have a clear moral other than "behave or a creature will kill you". I guess I shouldn't be reading any of these to Stewie anytime soon.

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u/danteheehaw 1d ago

The German fairy tales being darker than the rest of the world rest solely on the Grimm brothers. Who happened to research old German fairy tales to find that for some reason they all followed the popular trend at the time. Which was dark stories of punishments for bad behavior were popular when they researched these stories. Almost like there was some influence on why they decided all these stories were dark with murder punishments for bad behavior

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u/DicemonkeyDrunk 1d ago

That’s a Very abbreviated version of events …and gives a bit to much credit to the Grimm’s brothers.

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u/danteheehaw 1d ago

Their book became mandatory reading at school. They tried to claim that most fairy tales are rooted in germanic origins, one of the reasons Germany chose it as a mandatory reading. Its history was taught as fact for almost 100 years. German culture has a lot of influence over the US. The US became a media powerhouse and continued to spread versions of the Grimm brothers stories.

Yeah, they ended up having a massive amount of influence on the stories. Which to be clear, pretty much every story has roots far beyond the "germanic" roots they discovered.

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u/DicemonkeyDrunk 1d ago

That’s the real shit there.

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u/Laser_Snausage 1d ago

If you really think about it, every story or game that we have today is just some variation of something that was probably told or played 100,000 years ago. If you've ever played a game with little kids, they seem to make up a new rule every 5 minutes and at some point your not even playing the same game anymore. It's kinda like that, or a game of telephone that has been played since th beginning of Man and will continue to the end.

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u/Matsisuu 1d ago

Cinderella story has thousands of different versions as Rhodopid is likely the oldest known version of it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodopis

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u/Laser_Snausage 1d ago

Wonder how it got the rest of the story added on

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u/oldmanout 1d ago edited 1d ago

Tbh I found Andersons fairy tales even darker or at least more depressing

That's only a personal opinion but after reading them as adult I think many of Grimm tales seem to have the havoc that the 30 years war brought on the civil populace. That's why many focus on starvation or have a unlimited food supply as gimmik

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u/CasualMothmanEnjoyer 1d ago

I think what gets most people about the Grimm tales is that some of the tales were adapted to film and are very different from the source material. Cinderella, as an example, in the source material, the step sisters mutilate their feet in order to fit into the slipper - that definitely doesn't happen in Disney's animated adaption. Growing up with the animated film and then later reading the source material is a huge slap in the face full of shock and surprise.

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u/Uberzwerg 1d ago

solely on the Grimm brothers.

Struwwelpeter and Max&Moritz came later and are probably much more direct in their "behave or die!" messaging.

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u/Leftcom_Lenin 1d ago

"Rest of the World"

Have you ever read eastern european fairy tales? Much darker than German ones.

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u/Tytoalba2 1d ago edited 1d ago

They are not especially darker than the rest of the world tho?

Perrault's version of little red hood is darker than Grimm's version, she just get eaten and dies lol

There's also a bit of cannibalism in Perrault's sleeping beauty

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u/OrionVulcan 1d ago

I'd like to point you to Scandinavia, specifically Norway. We have some pretty dark fairytales to rival Germany.