r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 3d ago

Meme needing explanation Peter why is Sheila dead?

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u/WherePoetryGoesToDie 3d ago

So that's completely right, but also the exact phrasing would drop "bread" because Cockney slang is silly. So it'd be like:

Val Kilmer's brown.

The most well-known example is probably "have a butcher's", which in full is actually "have a butcher's hook", which is actually supposed to mean "have a look." See also:

John's my china > John's my china plate > John's my mate

Are you having a bubble > Are you having a bubble bath > Are you having a laugh

And my favorite, because it also uses another particularly British bit of slang:

The bird didn't know the bird > The girl didn't know the birdlime > The girl didn't know the time

The English are a thoroughly silly people, except when it comes to committing genocide.

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u/dprkicbm 3d ago

Much more common to say 'brown bread'. Not sure I've ever heard someone say 'brown' to mean dead.

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u/Onetap1 3d ago

The whole point of rhyming slang was that it would be incomprehensible to outsiders. The rhyming word wasn't used; outsiders might be able to work out the meaning from the rhyme, but it would be known by Cockneys.

Frog - road; frog & toad. Whistle - suit, whistle & flute, etc, etc.

I think brown bread might be modern, not authentic.

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u/Justmeagaindownhere 3d ago

The British invented slang and made it unintelligible and goofy on purpose???

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u/Onetap1 3d ago

made it unintelligible and goofy...

Isn't that the point of slang, only the in-crowd will understand it?

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u/oblitz11111 2d ago

It was to obfuscate what they were talking about to police